Dick Allen

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) One thing I don't like hearing is Hahn and Ventura disagreed with Kenny's approach. Before anything was said, JR should have made sure it was a united front. What is interesting is the Sale comment and the link you had earlier about a meeting concerning upper management access to the clubhouse. The most interesting part to me is it appears Robin is on the players side, which I would imagine lines up with Sale's alleged comments.

The Braves went to the playoffs 15 years in a row with Booby Cox banning kids. Get rid of all of them.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:19 PM) so finally some one can take it easy on the sox management, the present management was doing the right thing without exposing the person who made the request. I still think they could have said deal with it for 2 more weeks. This way worked out in the Sox favor though. I don't think it will hurt recruiting free agents. If it is important for a future free agent they really want to have their kid there all the time, they will agree to it.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) I don't think he's an egomaniac at all. In fact, that's pretty much opposite of everything that has been said/written about LaRoche. From all accounts, he's a very solid guy. I just think he marches a bit to the beat of his own drummer and the White Sox probably didn't really contemplate what his request was when it was made. I remember being at Soxfest and Hahn was gushing about LaRoche, saying they do so much homework on him, how he was the closest thing to Jim Thome in the clubhouse. It seems odd they would miss that he had his kid around him for 4 years in Washington. I do agree, he does seem to march to a different beat than most.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) But they gave their word to the South! Comparing a kid in the clubhouse with slavery. I don't see how this kind of post is allowed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) Clearly Dick Allen is in favor of Slavery, because it was in the constitution. Total BS post. Should be suspension worthy.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Has anyone credible confirmed KW guaranteed LaRoche's kid access 100% of the time? There is a big difference between telling someone the clubhouse is family friendly (which never changed) and guaranteeing 100% access every single day. LaRoche's father, and whoever Kaplan talked to, which could be the same source.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) Well, there is a concept in contract law called reliance. There's also this: There also was the highly publicized "handshake deal" Reinsdorf and former Bull Horace Grant allegedly reached three years ago. Grant opted for free agency and ended up with the Orlando Magic. Reinsdorf held a news conference and accused Grant of reneging on the deal and questioned Grant's character and worth ethic. "Why do they have to try to break a guy's character down in the public?" Grant asked after Reinsdorf's news conference. "It's repulsive, ridiculous." To this day, Reinsdorf sticks to his word about the Grant negotiations. "The Grant thing was done with the permission of his agent," Reinsdorf said. "Horace asked me to negotiate with him and I cleared it with his agent. Horace and I shook hands and Horace didn't keep his word. I'm just not used to that."

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) Things should never change. Ever. Change is fine, but if you have given your word, that should mean something.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) Which is funny, because LaRoche was going to be here one more year, at most. Yes but the White Sox agreed to this when he signed the contract according to most. I am of the belief people should live up to their agreements.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) I mean this sounds like a case destined for Judge Judy When the hair on the back of her neck starts standing, watch out.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:53 PM) Why not, the players are supporting him and would love for him to return. Too much. If this stuff didn't all come out, fine. But he and the Drake would be the center of attention all season long.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) You would hope Adam has a little sense and just stick to the decision. Part ways and move on. But maybe he wants to collect some of that cash. At this point he can't come back IMO. Collect some cash because the White Sox reneged on a handshake agreement, if there was some agreement? I would think that is possible.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) In all seriousness, how long before Latos gets blamed for going to KW It would be pretty silly to accommodate 1 player is in all probably will be here at most 1 year. But you never know.

QUOTE (napa_soxfan @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) Looking forward to kid-centric PR and Marketing campaigns. The fundamentals deck is going to have a 4 inning time limit.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:35 PM) Your incredibly sophisticated views on properly educating children in the 21st century. If the kid is really bright, he may be ahead of other kids his age doing it this way. It isn't for everyone, and I would disagree with Adam if he thinks school is not important. But there are many students who wind up not reaching their potential doing it the traditional way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) Because apparently when you disagree with someone, the only solution is to yell at them. I take it you have never yelled at anyone. We weren't privy to the conversation, but it had to do with his career, so the yelling might have been something most of us, except maybe you, have done.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:15 PM) There's never going to be the smoking gun that you want, which is a player(s) admitting they told KW it was a distraction to either them or to LaRoche. But there is KW saying the team bonded in their support of him against KW. If it was players who drove KW to this, that's another lie.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Yeah, I agree with that. And this is why I hope that he files his retirement paperwork this week. He's a cancer now and needs to go. He signed them. The White Sox haven't turned them in.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Oh for f***s sake would you stop? The guys said Sale was an idiot for yelling at KW years ago. That is what he was yelling at him about.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) What don't you understand about this?? A kid can be an awesome kid and you still might not want him around while you're doing your job all the time. Clearly at least some players on the White Sox feel that way. Frankly we've known Chris Sale is an idiot for quite some time. It is not clear players have an issue with him. The facts seem to indicate the opposite.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) Sale's an idiot for more serious reasons. Didn't he threaten Kenny over the phone back in his first or second year? So he should have been fine with KW making him a closer full time?

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) Doesn't participate in team drills or travel with the team, I'm sure Also doesn't do errands, clean up and help out. It is strange the team reaction is so strong when this LaRoche kid was nothing but a pain in the ass. Why didn't you tell us what a nuisance Drake LaRoche was last season? Why isn't everyone saying what an idiot Chris Sale is for being pissed off about it?

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) If Derrick said he is pro-LaRoche, it makes me feel even stronger the WSox made the right decision He has his kid out there all the time. Even brings him to press conferences, which I guess is considered cute and not annoying to the press.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:47 AM) Do these players not even entertain offers from teams that ban families and children in the clubhouse? Apparently it would be a deal breaker with this one particular player. That's his choice. If the guy is in a position to walk away from $13 million, let's face it, it's a situation none of us can really understand.