Dick Allen

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:56 PM) Which one you referring to? The one where now Nightengale says they agreed to let his son be around as much as he wanted when he signed. The big one. KW only let us know he told him to dial it back, he forgot he told him to not bring the kid around anymore. KW is full of s***.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:53 PM) You really think KW didn't tell him there were complaints? Wasn't there. Have no idea, still the Sox reneged on their deal according to another source. But that is cool because LaRoche sucks right?

QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:51 PM) Hawk with The KW theory. Here;s mine dded to it. I know that I am wayyyy out in left field, but was just wondering. Since they tried to trade LaRoche and failed, do you think that there is even a smidgen of a possibility that all of this is from JR to get rid of LaRoche and it is KW taking the brunt to cover for him? I mean they do have their staff meetings. Any possibility that JR stressed the fact that after the fiasco last year and thus year having back issues, that JR may have implicated in their meetings.Enough is enough. Do what you have to do. I may be wayyyy offf, but who knows if KW did what he did the way that he did because he feels pressure from upstairs. we may NEVER know what really happened If this was a ploy to get him to retire, they all need to find new jobs.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) Well, he was lying that he would address it if there were any issues brought to his attention. No. Read his statement. He Sid if a teammate or manager came to him he would deal with it since the clubhouse is their office. It wasn't KW's . Did KW tell him a teammate or coach had a problem or did he just say there was a problem? And why did KW leave the whole entir ban out of his story. I think KW feeds Nightengale info and that falls in perfectly with Sales complaints about KW not being able to keep his story straight. Telling the players it was the coaches, thellimg the coaches it was the players and finally telling everyone it was JR.

Nightingales story confirms La Roche wasn't lying.

If KW is lying as much as a couple players claim, he should be canned, but he won't. They will just sweep it under the rug. If JR doesn't have a press release that rivals the Thibs hatchet job last summer slamming LaRoche, it is pretty obvious who was in the wrong.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Zach Phillips outrighted, and he elected free agency. 43 in camp. He must have loved the Drake.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) I think this is exactly what happened. In fact, I think a big issue was having his own locker. I can easily see a few of the newcomers looking around and thinking: "really?" LaRoche didn't build the locker and sew a uniform.

We are beginning to see "sources". KW told the coaches players complained. So someone has a coach for a source. KW told the players coaches complained. So someone has a player for a source. KW then said it was all JR. If LaRoche met one on one with JR and wrote what he wrote today, it seems like that would be a lie as well. Sometimes in these jobs you have to bend the truth, but it is starting to look more and more like KW just decided the kid should not be there so did what he did.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf met with Adam LaRoche one on one yesterday. He also plans to meet with the players at some point https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/710916143373012992 Classic new White Sox fan excuse on that tweet. A guy now won't buy tickets because of Sale and Eaton. He was going to buy a lot of them too.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Do you think the Sox will continue their Family Sundays promotions? Maybe not every Sunday. Maybe not half of them. But there is a big space between 0 and 50%.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) Wasn't it reported that AL & KW spoke last week about scaling it back? It seems AL didn't comply and then KW said then not at all. KW does seem the type that if he felt LaRoche ignored him, the second time around he would tell him no access.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Doesn't matter at this time. Either LaRoche or KW is lying about what was said in that meeting And Sale said KW lied about something else.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Regardless of how anyone felt about LaRoche's kid, it sounds like they're upset with the principle of KW meddling instead of just working it out in the clubhouse. That seems right.

Maybe JR should have had these discussions before KW took action.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) He seems pretty subdued in the video as well compared to how the tweets made him sound. Those tweets made it seem like he was on PCP or something.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Sorry but Frazier has been around for about 10 minutes, it's silly for him to think he has the pulse down of the entire team. Especially when multiple sources have said there were complaints about it from some players. Multiple sources said the Sox were signing Cespedes. I would think he has the pulse of the team better than any of us, or any one source.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) Full Transcript of Sale: http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/chris-...roche-situation He sounds a lot less crazy with the entire transcript.

Now I read what Sale is referring to with the lies is KW. Apparently KW said players came to him, then changed it to coaches came to him, then said it was JR. Maybe that's why they want to meet with JR. And Frazier told Levine players did not complain about it at all.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) I think the tension between the players and KW has been building for awhile, and this incident was just the straw that broke the camels back. If KW's actions were caused by players coming to him, it's a pretty crazy thing he's getting players' wrath right now.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Hey I'm almost on board with this. KW is the one who really botched this s*** up. He's supposed to be the sophisticated Senior Exec with the MBA. KW doesn't have an MBA. He has 1 semester at Stanford.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Caulfield, what's about the only thing that would fix this? It's actually some of Caulfields best work. I don't think I had to look at it 4 times, but it was pretty good.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) How is he bringing the team together? It worked in Major League. If there is truth the the thought that KW is hated, no one is going to be bothered by Sale's comments. Besides guys who go off occasionally are pretty well known, and most of what they say goes in one ear out the other.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I'm confident he's not the one they're referring to I don't think Eaton is a good enough actor to pull it off either.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Wouldn't surprise me. Well Sale is complaining the loudest. I don't think KW has it in him to hold back if he was the one who went to him.