Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) But they gave their word to the South! Comparing a kid in the clubhouse with slavery. I don't see how this kind of post is allowed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) Clearly Dick Allen is in favor of Slavery, because it was in the constitution. Total BS post. Should be suspension worthy.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Has anyone credible confirmed KW guaranteed LaRoche's kid access 100% of the time? There is a big difference between telling someone the clubhouse is family friendly (which never changed) and guaranteeing 100% access every single day. LaRoche's father, and whoever Kaplan talked to, which could be the same source.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) Well, there is a concept in contract law called reliance. There's also this: There also was the highly publicized "handshake deal" Reinsdorf and former Bull Horace Grant allegedly reached three years ago. Grant opted for free agency and ended up with the Orlando Magic. Reinsdorf held a news conference and accused Grant of reneging on the deal and questioned Grant's character and worth ethic. "Why do they have to try to break a guy's character down in the public?" Grant asked after Reinsdorf's news conference. "It's repulsive, ridiculous." To this day, Reinsdorf sticks to his word about the Grant negotiations. "The Grant thing was done with the permission of his agent," Reinsdorf said. "Horace asked me to negotiate with him and I cleared it with his agent. Horace and I shook hands and Horace didn't keep his word. I'm just not used to that."

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) Things should never change. Ever. Change is fine, but if you have given your word, that should mean something.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) Which is funny, because LaRoche was going to be here one more year, at most. Yes but the White Sox agreed to this when he signed the contract according to most. I am of the belief people should live up to their agreements.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) I mean this sounds like a case destined for Judge Judy When the hair on the back of her neck starts standing, watch out.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:53 PM) Why not, the players are supporting him and would love for him to return. Too much. If this stuff didn't all come out, fine. But he and the Drake would be the center of attention all season long.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) You would hope Adam has a little sense and just stick to the decision. Part ways and move on. But maybe he wants to collect some of that cash. At this point he can't come back IMO. Collect some cash because the White Sox reneged on a handshake agreement, if there was some agreement? I would think that is possible.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) In all seriousness, how long before Latos gets blamed for going to KW It would be pretty silly to accommodate 1 player is in all probably will be here at most 1 year. But you never know.

QUOTE (napa_soxfan @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) Looking forward to kid-centric PR and Marketing campaigns. The fundamentals deck is going to have a 4 inning time limit.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:35 PM) Your incredibly sophisticated views on properly educating children in the 21st century. If the kid is really bright, he may be ahead of other kids his age doing it this way. It isn't for everyone, and I would disagree with Adam if he thinks school is not important. But there are many students who wind up not reaching their potential doing it the traditional way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) Because apparently when you disagree with someone, the only solution is to yell at them. I take it you have never yelled at anyone. We weren't privy to the conversation, but it had to do with his career, so the yelling might have been something most of us, except maybe you, have done.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:15 PM) There's never going to be the smoking gun that you want, which is a player(s) admitting they told KW it was a distraction to either them or to LaRoche. But there is KW saying the team bonded in their support of him against KW. If it was players who drove KW to this, that's another lie.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Yeah, I agree with that. And this is why I hope that he files his retirement paperwork this week. He's a cancer now and needs to go. He signed them. The White Sox haven't turned them in.

QUOTE (Baron @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Oh for f***s sake would you stop? The guys said Sale was an idiot for yelling at KW years ago. That is what he was yelling at him about.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) What don't you understand about this?? A kid can be an awesome kid and you still might not want him around while you're doing your job all the time. Clearly at least some players on the White Sox feel that way. Frankly we've known Chris Sale is an idiot for quite some time. It is not clear players have an issue with him. The facts seem to indicate the opposite.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) Sale's an idiot for more serious reasons. Didn't he threaten Kenny over the phone back in his first or second year? So he should have been fine with KW making him a closer full time?

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) Doesn't participate in team drills or travel with the team, I'm sure Also doesn't do errands, clean up and help out. It is strange the team reaction is so strong when this LaRoche kid was nothing but a pain in the ass. Why didn't you tell us what a nuisance Drake LaRoche was last season? Why isn't everyone saying what an idiot Chris Sale is for being pissed off about it?

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) If Derrick said he is pro-LaRoche, it makes me feel even stronger the WSox made the right decision He has his kid out there all the time. Even brings him to press conferences, which I guess is considered cute and not annoying to the press.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:47 AM) Do these players not even entertain offers from teams that ban families and children in the clubhouse? Apparently it would be a deal breaker with this one particular player. That's his choice. If the guy is in a position to walk away from $13 million, let's face it, it's a situation none of us can really understand.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) In writing? And now they dont, big deal. Teams ban smokeless tobacco, facial hair, jewelry, music etc from clubhouses every year. He's the one who decided to retire from the entire sport like a baby. Why does it have to be in writing? If they agreed to it, and that is a reason why he signed a contract, they should honor that agreement. Of course I am speaking as a victim. When I first got out of college I had a meager job, got a new one which got me a $15,000 pay raise which was huge for me at the time, gave my notice, and was counteroffered matching my salary with more responsibility. I foolishly accepted. Two weeks later, while I did get more responsibility, my paycheck only increased by a $5k increase. I asked about it and was laughed at and told that is what it was. I wanted to quit and would have quit, but I needed a job. Adam apparently doesn't. Luckily I was able to find something else in a couple of weeks, but the service I used to land the previous job wanted nothing to do with me.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) Making this public is bad parenting no matter how this really went down. I have no idea who was the one to get it out there first, but with the team's reaction, it was going to come out eventually anyway.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) His company clearly doesnt get the issue which is he cant be the only one with this special treatment. No other player in the league brings their kids to every single game and practice and team activity. He needs to explain to all MLB players why he is special. How about the team agreed to it?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) LOL, yes it is. Being on his side means supporting his actions, which means retiring instead of talking, or working it out or demanding a trade or ANY other option. No. Again, I don't think he should have retired, but I think KW was wrong. He did KW a favor by hanging them up. He wants to be with his family. If the White Sox said his kid would have the access he had, even though it's not in his contract, a deal is a deal. Ask JR. There was 2 weeks to go. That's about 1 week of the kid more than KW's new threshold. Then the issue would have been over with. They should have waited and told the players about the new conditions next offseason. The one thing that is common between Drake LaRoche and if KW would have done the same with Oney, is the s*** storm it caused. KW can't go back on it now, but I wonder if he has the same conversions if he knew all this would happen.