Dick Allen

Nightingales story confirms La Roche wasn't lying.

If KW is lying as much as a couple players claim, he should be canned, but he won't. They will just sweep it under the rug. If JR doesn't have a press release that rivals the Thibs hatchet job last summer slamming LaRoche, it is pretty obvious who was in the wrong.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Zach Phillips outrighted, and he elected free agency. 43 in camp. He must have loved the Drake.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) I think this is exactly what happened. In fact, I think a big issue was having his own locker. I can easily see a few of the newcomers looking around and thinking: "really?" LaRoche didn't build the locker and sew a uniform.

We are beginning to see "sources". KW told the coaches players complained. So someone has a coach for a source. KW told the players coaches complained. So someone has a player for a source. KW then said it was all JR. If LaRoche met one on one with JR and wrote what he wrote today, it seems like that would be a lie as well. Sometimes in these jobs you have to bend the truth, but it is starting to look more and more like KW just decided the kid should not be there so did what he did.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf met with Adam LaRoche one on one yesterday. He also plans to meet with the players at some point https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/710916143373012992 Classic new White Sox fan excuse on that tweet. A guy now won't buy tickets because of Sale and Eaton. He was going to buy a lot of them too.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Do you think the Sox will continue their Family Sundays promotions? Maybe not every Sunday. Maybe not half of them. But there is a big space between 0 and 50%.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) Wasn't it reported that AL & KW spoke last week about scaling it back? It seems AL didn't comply and then KW said then not at all. KW does seem the type that if he felt LaRoche ignored him, the second time around he would tell him no access.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Doesn't matter at this time. Either LaRoche or KW is lying about what was said in that meeting And Sale said KW lied about something else.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Regardless of how anyone felt about LaRoche's kid, it sounds like they're upset with the principle of KW meddling instead of just working it out in the clubhouse. That seems right.

Maybe JR should have had these discussions before KW took action.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) He seems pretty subdued in the video as well compared to how the tweets made him sound. Those tweets made it seem like he was on PCP or something.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Sorry but Frazier has been around for about 10 minutes, it's silly for him to think he has the pulse down of the entire team. Especially when multiple sources have said there were complaints about it from some players. Multiple sources said the Sox were signing Cespedes. I would think he has the pulse of the team better than any of us, or any one source.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) Full Transcript of Sale: http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/chris-...roche-situation He sounds a lot less crazy with the entire transcript.

Now I read what Sale is referring to with the lies is KW. Apparently KW said players came to him, then changed it to coaches came to him, then said it was JR. Maybe that's why they want to meet with JR. And Frazier told Levine players did not complain about it at all.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) I think the tension between the players and KW has been building for awhile, and this incident was just the straw that broke the camels back. If KW's actions were caused by players coming to him, it's a pretty crazy thing he's getting players' wrath right now.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Hey I'm almost on board with this. KW is the one who really botched this s*** up. He's supposed to be the sophisticated Senior Exec with the MBA. KW doesn't have an MBA. He has 1 semester at Stanford.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Caulfield, what's about the only thing that would fix this? It's actually some of Caulfields best work. I don't think I had to look at it 4 times, but it was pretty good.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) How is he bringing the team together? It worked in Major League. If there is truth the the thought that KW is hated, no one is going to be bothered by Sale's comments. Besides guys who go off occasionally are pretty well known, and most of what they say goes in one ear out the other.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I'm confident he's not the one they're referring to I don't think Eaton is a good enough actor to pull it off either.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Wouldn't surprise me. Well Sale is complaining the loudest. I don't think KW has it in him to hold back if he was the one who went to him.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:26 PM) Come on man, you know that's way off. It's not about KW, it's about whether or not you should publicly denounce your own boss. It's about dissension within a team. I think it would be much worse if he was going after Robin. KW is too far removed. A poster yesterday knew an ex player or someone who knew an ex player and he said everyone hated KW. So it's really not a big deal. All those who want the Sox to trade Chris Sale now will be creaming over him in June if he is leading the league in ERA and strikeouts. It will be like this never happened.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) What a completely stupid point. The difference between somebody on this message board sounding off on KW and a player on the White Sox doing it to the media is wider than the Grand Canyon. The point being those who rip KW constantly are now ripping Chris Sale because he is ripping KW. It's right on point.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:21 PM) I just wish this never happened. It's like going to the dentist. It hurts now, but in a week or so, the Sox will be fine and will theoretically have $13 million to play with.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) Oh come on...he's not our superior No but he's also not doing anything this board wouldn't be doing if it was a player we liked as much as he apparently like LaRoche.