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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) *Yawn* Obama: "YOU WILL HAVE CHOICE" Obama (not widely reported): "it might take 5-10-15-20 years but (paraphrasing) single payor is the goal". And don't sit there and say that he's "changed his mind". Otherwise people are damn fools who can't look into what the long term goals of this plan are. I know what the bill says and I know what the long term objectives are, that no one wants to think about because it's something that is "lies". BS. THEY SAID IT. But I guess those were "fabrications and lies", right? The far left is kinda pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:41 AM) I do. Obamas are not to be covered, Schmucky said yesterday they are going to the reconciliation route (essentially saying there's no way ObamaCare will be stopped), and they want to bring the loonies back in by - oh yea, we got those Bush Motherf***ers we need to get - GO GET THEM - while health care makes a little path away from the far far left agenda. Move the hand over here, LOOK, (don't want this hand, don't want you to see this side). And back the other way. And back. Classic Obama. Classic ACLU FOIA lawsuit. And that doesn't excuse how the Bush administration broke the law.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:54 AM) oh, no, it's mainstream, conservative, moderates, liberals, agenda - a public option. The whole WORLD wants this! (Except those mobs, nazis, crazy f***s showing up at these town hall meetings.) The far left is kinda of pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Wait what, a majority of Americans don't want to see healthcare reform? Were you taking a nap when Obama made half his campaign about wanting to reform healthcare and then he got elected in a landslide and his party got a supermajority? The opposition has gotten louder but believe it or not, people's minds haven't really changed all that much from when this started. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/...changing-minds/ It really depends on how the question is asked: "Do you want Obama's plan* for health care to pass?" and only a small number, somewhere in the 20-35% range, say 'yes.' Give a description of the plans actually going through Congress and the numbers shoot up to the 60% range. *IObama hasn't actually proposed or endorsed a plan.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) This all comes out right before Congress comes back to vote on health care. Smokescreen, baby. Edit - to say it better, this has been simmering for months - and they're going to pursue this right at the same time. Right. Nice motives. I think its tied to a court-order FOIA release.

Financial Statement Analysis for Engineers through U of I online. Sounds thrilling.

Any form of insurance is collectivized risk. I get to pay for whatever risks or mistakes you make if we're insured through the same company.

These recent revelations about the CIA torture/ "harsh interrogation" is actually going somewhere. Between this, Ridge, Blackwater, some of what Sarkozy said and a lot of other information that has trickled out, its pretty much confirmed how terrible of President person a Bush was.

Also, I don't think that the chief was an accurate depiction of any aspect of Illini tribes. I really don't understand why people get so upset about it either way.

QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 07:56 AM) She's in Bromley. She joined like five organizations over the weekend. So far she's enjoying it. I was there for two years. Good place.

Inglorious Basterds was great. That Avatar movie looks terribly stupid. I'm getting sick of movies that are written to show off (unrealistic) CGI and now the 3D crap.

I simply don't care at this point. I'll still watch, when I get the chance. I'll still hope they play well, but I won't be disappointed if they don't. I would be more surprised if they actually make the playoffs than miss it by 2 or 3 games.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 09:45 PM) The census is not a think tank. I wasn't referring to the census data. I already explained why the 45M number is overstated. I'm in agreement with you on that one. edit: really, it looks like you missed ss2k5's post that was an article relying on some conservative "think tank" (read: ideological apologetics) said.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 07:42 PM) Holy s***. EVERYBODY's biased, unless it fits your point of view... geesh. What the hell do we even have this god-damned forum for if no one believes ANYTHING the "other side" says? "Thinktanks", by definition, are useless sources of information. Expecting an objective analysis out of one is like expecting the Vatican to ever say anything negative about Roman Catholicism. They're completely beholden to an ideology.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 22, 2009 -> 09:08 PM) Aye aye - communism and Marxism are two different things. Run a step and take a mile, please. Marxism is a type of communism like a square is a type of rectangle.

And Cutler threads the needle for his first pass at Soldier Field.

There's a bunch of different U-# measures, but yeah I think that's the one I'm thinking of.

let me know when GS and GM are worker-run co-ops in a true communist sense and then you can start talking about Marx. It's not even close to "Das Kapital".

I believe the 45 million contains some estimated number of illegals (how can you count the undocumented?) and another chunk (10-15M) that qualify for some form of medicare or kidcare but don't take it. Last year, my friend had some allergy tests to figure out his sinus problem. Earlier this year, he lost his job and bought some gap insurance for a few months. During that period, he needed surgery on a polyp in his sinuses. Guess what happened when he filed his claim? Pre-existing, denied! He was young and driving a beat up Focus and doing the "right thing" by staying insured and he still got f***ed over by the lovely insurance companies. And I keep hearing from their CEOs and PR wings how they were willing to work with Obama on reform early on--my question is what was stopping you from not implementing s*** policies that screw your customers in the first place?

I never really cared either way and laughed at the protesters on both sides. Epitome of "college kids have nothing better to do."

Giant corporate bailouts are the hallmark of a proletariat revolution.

So, basically, we front-loaded the sales we would have expected over the next 5 years into a month or two?

How will this hurt auto sales for the next 5 years?

Mechanical Engineer at a food packaging machinery OEM.