StrangeSox

Press sure does love bombing and wars

We spent probably over $100m to cause some mild damage to run ways that'll be fixed quickly. https://t.co/eAaAd8izda

Launched 40 cruise missiles at a Syrian air base

wikileaks is also now pushing the "gas attack was a hoax" line https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/...976416284418048

White House considering strike options that would result in dead Russian soldiers. https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/850094186321895424

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) It's a sign of having a pretty f***ed up mind/worldview. He's also a big #pizzagate idiot. These are sub-WND level "sources." He's now saying the Syrian gas attack is a "hoax" https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/850082560164077568

Figured I'd put this in a dedicated thread since it seems like this situation is going to be ramping back up rather than putting it in the general Trump thread regime change time

Imagine this alternate universe: https://civichall.org/civicist/imagine-the-alternatives/

Cloture vote failed, Senate going nuclear, Maverick McCain saying he has to vote to change the rules despite saying it will cause "irreparable damage" to the Senate. Gorsuch will be confirmed by Friday night.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Per some reporting last night, this is exactly what happened. lol it's so easy to manipulate the President of the United States Here's the link I saw: https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/849797826422984704

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:02 AM) When you remember who will be investigating Nunes.... Funny how quickly he disappeared after his "the poors can just stop buying an iphone every year, then they can afford health insurance" comment edit: Chaffetz actually runs the House Oversight Committee, here's a letter from the Ethics Committee:

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 08:52 AM) I wonder if a lot of people referring to him as President Bannon worked on Trump like some thought it would. Per some reporting last night, this is exactly what happened. lol it's so easy to manipulate the President of the United States

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Nunes just stepped down from the Russia investigation. Of course it is all the leftists fault, has nothing to do with his increasingly bizarre behavior House Ethics Committee has launched an investigation http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017...ng-secrets.html

Bannon threatened to quit over being ousted from the NSC https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/849937229921357824

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:54 PM) Not sure I see the issue there. He's inferring that he can/would/will threaten to pull the Iran deal off the table if Iran doesn't deal with its militias aiding Assad? I guess that's one way of reading it, but imo it's more likely that the only thing in Trump's brain about Iran is the no-good-very-bad deal and he has no clue what Iran is doing in Syria or with Hezbollah.

Anyway, rather than more unsupported conspiratorial silliness, here's some more of our President's strong grasp of foreign policy on display: https://twitter.com/jessicaschulb/status/849677509146947586

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) I have not responded to one of SS's dozens of posts directed at me and he just keeps going. Starting to creep me out. QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) Can't talk about spying and governmental overreach without being a racist anymore. Good riddance. huh I guess this was just a completely random, unrelated post to me gently pointing out that you were using a phrase that has a history of being used as a racial slur?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) Can't talk about spying and governmental overreach without being a racist anymore. Good riddance. Nah dude you can talk about whatever you want without being a racist, but when you use a pejorative term for black people invented by /pol and embraced by white supremacist sites like stormfront, it's not a good look. And I have no idea if you're aware of that phrase's popularity among extremely racist circles, so that was an honest FYI. There's no reason you can't talk about spying and government overreach without using a phrase like that.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:22 PM) Do you think the Flynn recording fell out of the blue sky? That was individuals in Obama's administration recording him. You're supposed to have a warrant to tap someone's communications. You're not allowed leak these recordings (whether they're recorded legally or illegally) to the press. The left just cries Russia like McCarthyism 2.0 and everything is excused. No warrants needed or laws to be followed because of Russia. We don't actually have a recording of Flynn, fyi. We have the leak that he was picked up on surveillance of Russian officials and was then lying to the public and the administration about having had those meetings. You keep implying that Trump or Trump associates were being directly spied on rather than that they kept turning up while the IC was legally spying on foreign nationals.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) There's a difference between a typo and going on cable to cover your ass and opening with "I dindunuffin." But yeah, you got me. I don't know the difference between your/you're. FYI that phrase has an extremely troubling background and you might want to consider not using it in the future.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty silly. I don't know if this was your intention but this immediately came to mind for me.

This touches on some of the same ideas of Rick Perlstein's 2012 The Long Con piece, with the underlying theme being that the right-wing media/political donation empire has been a grift for decades and is now finally coming home to roost as the inmates raised on this stuff are running the asylum. The Long, Lucrative Right-wing Grift Is Blowing Up in the World's Face

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) So where did the Flynn leaks come from? Was he a part of Trump's campaign and transition? Yes. Did someone eavesdrop on him? Yes. Did someone illegally leak it to the press? Yes. I've been clear on this surveillance stuff all along. I don't change my opinions on it and if Trump does in 2020, like Obama's admin has given him precedent to, I'll be ripping it then. The surveillance state nullifies any attempt to check tyranny. I've been speaking that for a long while. It isn't partisan. This is very, very clear. They were legally surveilling the Russian that Flynn was contacting. They were not directly spying on or following anyone in the Trump campaign/transition/administration. You are now stating things that either aren't confirmed or simply aren't true as fact. "like Obama's admin has given him precedent to do" isn't something that actually has happened because Obama's admin was not conducting any sort of illegal surveillance. If Trump's 2020 challenger's campaign team keeps getting caught up in surveillance of foreign nationals suspected of influencing the US election, that doesn't point back to any wrongdoing by the Trump administration.

The current administration is under FBI investigation for possible collusion with Russia, and Russia's influence on our election through disinformation and hacking/leaking campaigns is also under investigation. Those are both pretty major things. That Trump's team kept getting caught up in legitimate surveillance of Russians does not mean that anyone was spying on Trump or Trump's team directly or lend any support to his claims which have been flatly rejected by the intelligence community.