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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) I'm now convinced Trump is the new world heavyweight champion troll. This star thing is awesome. He's trolling his way into an epic defeat and destroying his brand, so I'm not sure how good of a strategy that really is. I'd say it's the gift that keeps on giving and that it's pure hilarity, but unfortunately antisemitic attacks and harassment are on the rise.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:46 PM) Saw the second video. It's pretty clear it was a straight up execution. The cops should be jailed. But we know how it will end. here's the second video if anyone wants to subject themselves to it http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/alto...ling-new-video/

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) Where is the NRA today?? This guy was killed because he was legally carrying a gun the constitution allows him to have. This is right up their wheelhouse. **crickets*** FWIW, after police murdered John Crawford in a Walmart for holding a BB gun he picked up off of the shelf and was casually holding in a state where open carry is legal and he'd be perfectly within his rights to carry a real gun around, gun supporters did protest the police. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/10/0...-he-were-white/

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 05:06 AM) You keep bringing up this taser thing, but most cops don't carry tasers. And no, I don't know why. FWIW tasers get overused and can lead to death themselves. The problem is more basic than what tools the cops have, it's what sort of approach and what their response is. Time after time in cases like these, the response is to immediate and aggressively escalate the situation, which only makes it more likely that increasing levels of force must be used. So you give them a taser, and the first sign of resistance or non-cooperation or just no immediately understanding and complying with the officers' sometimes contradictory commands and you're getting tazed.

seriously how dumb is this campaign We know who made the original image, and he was definitely an antisemite! Why don't they understand that? eta this story would have been dead and buried over the weekend if Trump and his campaign weren't so incompetent. Can anyone imagine him trying to actually handle international diplomacy?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) By no means am I exonerating police everywhere, but the idea that this is "America" is f***ing absurd. What the is, is media reporting on nothing but bad things, because they know it sells. Violence sells. Turning people on one another sells. There is much more good going on in America than bad, and I don't need "statistics on police shootings" to know that. I'm glad that police murder is getting more attention if it means police will commit and cover up fewer murders going forward. I don't particularly care if it "represents" "America" or the ratio of good/bad going on in America, this is still a s***ty and horrible and too frequent thing.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) So nothing good happens in America, ever? Just stuff like this? I really wish people would back off the ledge and recognize that this isn't the norm. It's simply not. And no statistics back claims that it is. as bmags pointed out, there's no reliable statistics one way or the other on this. Police departments don't always track this and don't track it in the same way.

lol bulls

Trump just can't let the star thing go https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/...865499660091393 I'm sure Clinton appreciates him doing everything in his power to keep his own stupidity as the main story

Trump points out that actually it's the people who criticized his antisemitic retweet who are the real racists https://mobile.twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/...826057360633856

Post Politics Eric Trump: My father gives ‘millions and millions and millions’ to charity Not sure how believable that claim is given that Trump claims some sort of middle income tax deduction worth a couple hundred but would forego millions in deductions here. eta well, aside from claiming that trump "likes to keep some anonymity" in the first place. That's the least believable deflection you could possibly come up with. Trump's entire bulls*** image being destroyed in the process of his campaign really is the icing on the cake.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) How can you forget the Stealth Elf!? My wife called him "lilliputian"

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 06:05 PM) Both are in my sig. Here's the starting point of me boiling over. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...3338&st=450 The follow-up, with the GOAT post by J4L. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry2492929 The worst part about this is that we were arguing about whether the team would be better if Brent Lillibridge, a guy I forgot even existed, would make a better starter. This team has been so bad for so long

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) These are not healthy topics for anyone considering joining this site. Making threads about users is not healthy. Italian beefs may not be the healthiest sandwich option, but I won't stand for topics about them getting banned.

From Carl Paladino, Trump's NY campaign chair, who was last known nationally for his own hilariously inept and racist campaign for governor.

Speaking of Iraq, Britain released their investigation of how they got involved in that boondoggle. It was not kind to proponents of the war. Chilcot delivers crushing verdict on Blair and the Iraq war

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:48 AM) I'm not whining. I'm just saying you take innocuous comments and spin it to fit your narrative. I'm not saying Trump doesn't deserve that, i'm not even saying you're necessarily wrong about assuming what he thinks about chemical weapons. But him, at best, glossing over or pooh poohing Saddam's use of chemical weapons does not mean he applauded the use or that he supports that use. You're assumptions based on the quote you provided goes too far. Believe what you want. I don't care. I'm just pointing out what I see. Here's you saying a bunch of garbage I specifically said was not relevant and still failing to explain how 'throws some gas' and 'goes crazy' are neutral descriptions of genocide. edit: I'll take "glossing over" as another way of saying "downplaying," thanks for agreeing with my argument.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) "He was reaching for gun" Know how this story ends. No indictment or acquittal?

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) I've explained it. You have nothing but hate for the guy and everything he says so there's no point arguing with you about it. No, you haven't. You've made some unsupported assertions several times. Don't whine about how we hate Trump and aren't "reasonable." Don't talk about his 10 ft line. Don't talk about regional power balances. Don't talk about "so by your logic." Don't try to say that I think this means he applauds Saddam's use, because I haven't. Address that specific line wherein he explicitly downplays genocide via sarin gas, and explain how "throws some gas" and "goes crazy" are neutral descriptions, or link to the posts where you already explained that.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Again, so he didn't put enough emphasis on how terrible it was, therefore, he's a supporter of chemical weapons. Gotcha. Again, actually support your argument that a "reasonable person" would find "throws a little gas" and "everyone goes crazy" to be neutral descriptions of a sarin gas genocide and the international condemnation of it.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) You can read it as follows: he's saying both sides killed each other, the world was appalled but the region was stabilized. And no matter which side you tried to get rid of there would have been destabilization in the region. Why else does he include "they go back, forth, it's the same?" He's using the gas as an example of the ways they killed each other. I mean Christ, guys, this is Trump. If he wanted to say that chemical weapons were a great thing, he would have said that. It's Trump. He could have said "everyone goes crazy, oh he's using gas. GOOD! It worked!" But he didn't. Address this actual line Mr. Reasonable person. You keep deliberately avoiding the specific line in question: "Saddam Hussein throws a little gas, everyone goes crazy, oh he used gas" And it was the worst case of civilians targeted by a chemical attack ever. It's recognized as a genocide. It's not an example of a tit-for-tat balance of regional powers. In what possible way is "throws a little gas" a neutral description of the worst civilian chemical attack ever? How is describing international condemnation of that attack as "go[ing] crazy" neutral? eta More to the point, Trump's argument there isn't really supported by reality. The problems in the Middle East right now are not due to a regional hegemonic power, a world where Iran is now an unchecked ME power running roughshod over everyone else. The destabilization started in Syria, another strongman dictator government not afraid to gas its own civilians.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:06 AM) No that is exactly what you're doing. He just said what happened - Saddam dropped chemical weapons, the world reacted and nothing changed and they remained stabilized. That's all he said there. YOU are taking the next step to add that because he didn't downplay the use of chemical weapons or at least comment that they are awful, he's somehow SUPPORTING and APPLAUDING the use of those weapons. The same logic you're using to deduce his meaning there applies to his other statements, including the 10 feet forward/10 feet back comment. Since he didn't downplay how awful it was that tens of thousands of soldiers died for no actual gain, he must therefore be SUPPORTING and APPLAUDING needless death and murder. No, not really. He could have been making the same historically accurate comments regarding the Battle of the Somme in WWI or something, and it wouldn't be downplaying the horrors. eta what you said there doesn't even make sense. "IF =! downplay, he supports" doesn't make sense, if anything the opposite argument would be closer to what was I saying (he downplayed it, so he supports it). He's a-okay with using nuclear weapons, so I imagine he'd be fine with chemical weapons too, but I didn't claim he was supporting the use there. I said he was downplaying Saddam's genocide, which he was. "Saddam Hussein throws a little gas, everyone goes crazy, oh he used gas" is not a neutral description of a deliberate genocide of a city.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) Hey, it's good you see what an awful person Saddam was and why it was a good move to get rid of him. Saddam being an awful person and invading Iraq being an awful idea are not mutually exclusive. No. So often your arguments boil down to you making "so by your logic" statements that don't actually follow from any real arguments anyone else is making. Trump supporting counterbalancing powers vis a vis Iraq/Iran isn't terrible. Trump downplaying Saddam's ethnic cleansing via chemical weapons, which is absolutely what he did in that December speech, and Trump lauding Saddam for "taking care of terrorists" when he actually funded terrorists are what are terrible. What's more, like so many of Trump's f***-ups, it was completely unprompted.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) The system is rigged. But is rigged towards rich and powerful people like him. Sure I can agree with that generally, just don't think it's the best political campaign strategy.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) Meh, that fits with his "i'm an outsider, they're all corrupt" mantra. It works to rile up his base, but they're already voting for him. All he knows is throwing red meat, though.