StrangeSox

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) Well the protesters are very violent with the police, no doubt. But dumb of the police to pass off the media. The presence of a few non-peaceful protesters throwing some rocks or bottles does not justify the response and the demands of the police here. They are indiscriminately tear gasing people, including the media and residential neighborhoods. They are arresting members of the media for taking pictures of the police. They have been attempting to push media out of the city all together. Their first announcement before the latest round of tear gassing was a demand that everyone turn off their video cameras. And this is all in response to a community reaching the breaking point after the police gun down an unarmed 18 year old kid, shooting him in the back and letting him rot on the pavement for hours and then refusing to explain themselves.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 10:26 PM) When's the last time something like this happened outside of the inner city in America? 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago? To me, it's reminiscent of the situation after Katrina in New Orleans...although on a much smaller scale. Or the reaction to the Rodney King beating in LA...and counter-reaction, Reginald Denny, the truck driver pulled from his truck and beaten is the name that still stands out. the Occupy protests around the country were almost universally met with heavy police resistance (remember the UC Davis pepper spray cop?) Any time there's a WTO or G8/G7 summit, there's a lot of protesters and a similar police response. What's different here, imo, is that it's a single, geographic community that is protesting, not people coming in from all over like with the Occupy/WTO/G8 protests.

Washington Post reporters have been arrested in two cities in 2014: Ferguson and Tehran.

Middle East dictator violently suppressing popular protests, or a police officer aiming a rifle at a crowd of unarmed, peaceful protesters?

Military unit getting ready to assault an enemy position or domestic police force getting ready to assault citizens?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) The national media has to be scrambling getting its people to Ferguson now. Wonder if they are using the local affiliates. Looks like this is one city in the U.S. with a lot of mean-spirited Barney Fifes running around. The st. louis county sheriff's department is running the show

msnbc reporter Trymaine Lee reporting that the police had a sniper on top of a vehicle aiming his weapon into the crowd

also pretty disappointed that this thread title is about the "Ferguson riots" and not "Ferguson police murdered an unarmed kid about to start college; violently suppress protests and attempt to quash media coverage"

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 09:54 PM) Something has to be going on that the public doesn't know about it. Either the Ferguson PD is so concerned about hiding stuff they are acting so violent, or these "peaceful" protesters are causing more trouble than being reported. I'm not picking a side but there seems to be a puzzle piece missing in all of this. Especially given how relatively quiet the national media has been about this. Nah, police reaction to protests often follows this same script.

so where was this heavy-handed police presence when Cliven Bundy and his dumbass militia crew were actually pointing loaded weapons at law enforcement officers?

police tear gas al jazeera america camera crew they are also demanding that everyone at the protest turn off their video cameras

police using tear gas and other "less than lethal" methods to break up protests again, firing tear gas canisters into people's yards. https://twitter.com/jonswaine?original_refe...tw_p=tweetembed edit live stream of the protests available here http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Washington Post, HuffPo journalists reportedly arrested without cause in Ferguson http://gawker.com/washington-post-huffpo-r...uson-1621284034

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) This impressive bit of photography is making the rounds. this photo does a great job of depicting everything that's wrong with the ever-increasing militarization of the police in this country. that's not riot-response gear, that's tactical gear. edit: the militarization is a related but distinct issue from the general interactions between the police and black communities around the country though

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) This is a hilarious thread. My guess from reading all of this is that none of you have ever watched more than 2-3 NASCAR races in your life, if any. you say that like its a bad thing?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 08:22 PM) There were no other cars on the track at the time. That's odd. No, that's not what he said. And the video that I saw showed everything from Ward hitting the wall and spinning out through the end. There were only a handful of cars that had to drive by him after he started walking to the middle of the track. One of them damn near hit the guy standing in the middle of the track, and the next car did hit him. I don't know why the only options you can imagine are malice or incompetence ("he must be a horrible driver then!"). Ward was advancing more and more onto the track the whole time, gesturing and walking towards Stewart's car as it came around the track.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 06:17 PM) Reports of family and friends protesting in their own yard and police shooting tear gas at them. Wtf. http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/...wn_backyard.php reports also that the Ferguson PD has been ordering media out of the area and threatening independent journalists with arrest if they don't leave

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 05:29 PM) Or at least people who don't follow racing. While he should not have been out there, it happens all the time. Stewart is only culpable from the fact that he should have missed him. Out of all the times racers have gone on the track to yell at another driver, this is the only time a driver has been hit. The problem I have with this is that another driver was barely able to miss Ward after he ran out into the middle of track. Ward still kept coming after that close call.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) Sprint car racer Jeremy Campbell: "You want to try to get out of your car as soon as possible,” Campbell said. “Because in case the fuel line does break or in case there's some kind of fire. I always try to get out.” Interesting. yeah but you get out and hop over the wall or get to the infield and behind some crash barriers. You don't stand in the middle of the track gesturing at people.

Really enjoyed "Mile, Mile-and-a-Half," a documentary about hiking the John Muir Trail in California. Really makes me want to take a month off next summer.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 05:16 PM) If they can't see out of the cars they shouldn't be racing them. lol edit also what zenryan said

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) Is that something recorded at that level of racing? Possibly, basic telemetry like throttle position is pretty simple stuff these days.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 09:26 AM) The cops aren't gonna be listening to the track noise. They are going to be listening to the communications between Tony and his team to see if Tony said anything like "I'm gonna give this kid a thrill when I pass him" They might even be able to grab telemetry data