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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) Ok exactly. He doesn't sufficiently address the seriousness of the issue. Therefore, (ignorant) racist. edit: and I totally buy it. I grew up in a town of 3,000-5,000 people. We had a token black family or two and NEVER thought twice about it. I moved to the big city later in life and every day there's a story about race. In my personal experience growing up I could say I never saw any issue and that every black person I knew wasn't subjected to discrimination or ill-treatment and seemed perfectly happy. You didn't grow up in Jim Crow Louisiana where there was de jure racial oppression, though. And if you had, and you based your entire views of race relations based on what you saw happen in front of you while ignoring the rest of society around you, you'd be just as ignorant. It's actually pretty much a textbook example of racial privilege if you don't even have to consider the realities of racial oppression, only what you personally saw other people exposed to.

No, in other words, he dismisses very real racism and racial oppression and imagines that African Americans as a whole were happier under Jim Crow and are now suffering thanks to welfare and entitlements. He doesn't care at all because he doesn't even see the blatant, explicit racism of the Jim Crow south. QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) Ok exactly. He doesn't sufficiently address the seriousness of the issue. Therefore, (ignorant) racist. No, you're still not getting. Ignorant racist because he literally dismisses the blatant, widespread de jure racism of the Jim Crow south and romanticizes it as happier times for African Americans, when they'd sing songs all day and wouldn't even complain about the white man, until that awful welfare came along. He completely dismisses the seriousness of the issue. I really can't believe you have a hard time understanding why painting Jim Crow Louisiana as happy fun time when asked a question about racial issues is absurd. He is literally recollecting Uncle Remus as his lived experience in pre-CRA Louisiana. Uncle Remus was pretty damn questionable in 1947, let alone 2013.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) Well I really don't. I don't expect people to have 100% perfect quotes that sufficiently cover every issue any time a question is asked. He's giving a quote about his experiences in rural Louisiana. It's entirely possible that he is color blind in a sense and being a "white trash" redneck he never had a problem/experienced a problem with whites and poor blacks. He shouldn't have to follow up that statement with "but you know i recognize other people didn't have it so good!!!!" He's giving a quote that essentially dismisses the widespread and systemic racial oppression African Americans faced in this country, particularly in states like Louisiana, in the 50's and 60's. He then follows it with a statement that implies that 'entitlements' and 'welfare' have made it worse for African Americans, and that this is the cause of whatever their current unhappiness is. He is literally saying that they were happier under Jim Crow than they were post-Great Society. If anything, it's a great example of why "color blind" is such a stupid thing. It lets someone who isn't the target of systemic racial oppression be completely and comfortably ignorant of what's happening to everyone around them. edit: more bluntly, every single day Jim Crow America mistreated African Americans. He claims to have not seen direct, immediate racial oppression (I am skeptical!) and from there talks about how happy everyone was. His "color blindness" is just another word for "deep ignorance"

It seems to me he was (people used to be more godly; being godly makes you happy; welfare destroyed godliness? I dunno I didn't say it's a coherent one). But it doesn't matter if he was trying to make a broader point or not. The thing about the blues was just straight-up dumb, but the other part is offensive in the same way that Uncle Remus from Song of the South was offensive. He's literally dismissing that blacks in rural Louisiana in the 40's and 50's were racially oppressed and saying that they seemed happy enough to him. If you don't get why it's offensive, I don't know that I could explain it. edit: maybe the NAACP/HRC letter can explain it better http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/...tter_121813.pdf

His portrayal of poor rural African Americans in Louisiana as happy-go-lucky people without a care in the world until that damned welfare came along is...problematic at best. It's basically Uncle Remus. Saying that they weren't singing the blues is just straight-up dumb because Louisiana blues music really started developing in the post-war period.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) I allowed my son to play football but said no to him going to an overnight skateboard open house with mostly kids he didn't know. Now there's a dangerous hobby.

I thought that's what the research out of Boston University has found?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 01:27 PM) The key to this study is still linking concussions to degenerative brain symptoms later in life. I don't think most people would argue that multiple concussions would do this even though the link is still very thin based on all of the research. where the true discussion lies in that idea that cumulative head trauma without concussion symptoms causes CTE or degenerative problems later in life. Yeah, there seems to be a very strong correlation with sub-concussive brain trauma and CTE, but it's not 100% well-understood at this point.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sp...oncussion-risk/ eta: Eric Pelly died after receiving a concussion playing rugby, but he also played football.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) He also hates being called dumb, which this article specifically states. Im sure he will talk about it today They were talking about it already in the crosstalk section! He denied calling Derrick a villain but maintains that he's a detriment to the team right now. edit: Rose doesn't want to go through rebuilding and lose the team they currently have assembled, but last year his camp was saying that they need to get Derrick some support.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 11:37 AM) He listed various sins, also including adultery, alcoholism, etc. But still, his point was the exact same - I don't get it. I don't agree with it. I think it's a sin. But treat people with kindness and love and don't judge them. Let God deal with it. As a pseudo Christian, that's been my belief for a long time. Look at what Robertson actually said. His comments and his tone were not remotely like the Pope's. Honestly, just pretty much standard retrograde homophobia there. I think this is really what got him in trouble:

there was the usual silly linkage to bestiality in there, I don't think Pope Francis did that.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 11:01 AM) If you think that football is as dangerous as playing with bleach and knives that is your choice. I dont. I find football to be closer to getting in car. http://www.besthealthdegrees.com/health-risks/ Getting in a car is a pretty necessary part of daily life for most people, but playing football isn't. There's quite a bit of excluded middle between "football may be too dangerous for children to play" and "no child should ever do anything with any risk ever"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) Last I saw, the group hired to investigate brains of ex-football players said 18 of 19 autopsies brains had CTE. Do you as a professional have access to other studies that aren't as compelling for CTE? I'd be curious to hear if there is another side to this. It was something like 45 of 46 in that Frontline episode. I believe it was the group based out of Boston University.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 10:15 AM) Whats the point of reality tv if the people cant be real? Suspending someone for this is stupid. Calling this "reality tv" is a bit of a stretch. Everything I've read is that it's heavily scripted. edit: google for some pics of them before the show started. Clean-cut guys in white linen suddenly become backwoods hicks with huge beards. Just selling an image like Larry the Cable Guy. Nothing wrong with that, and apparently a lot of people are entertained.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 09:10 AM) They're probably in the "no such thing as bad publicity" area. A "suspension" might well just make viewers more focused/interested since it's the evil media unfairly coming down on him for his deeply held beliefs. That's true. Some of the stuff he said about race is more ridiculous than his pretty boilerplate conservative christian "homosexuality is a sin, also gross" comment.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 09:10 AM) Kinda funny the level of outrage GLADD and other groups are having over this, when they give their pal Baldwin a complete pass for worse. I guess since he donates money he gets a few 'get out of gay-outrage free' cards each year. I've seen Baldwin get trashed pretty heavily on liberal blogs over the past month or so, and deservedly so.

he was suspended from the show: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/showbiz/duck...sty-suspension/ I guess it's A&E's brand image to manage, but I dunno about kicking him off of the air over this. Supposedly he sort of hates doing the show and wanted out anyway, so maybe it's ultimately what he wanted.

oh hey they're a bunch of homophobes, absolutely shocking

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 18, 2013 -> 02:21 PM) Anything I can do on facebook I can do with other tools that do not require my life to become a circus freak show. but nothing about facebook requires your life to become a circus freakshow. You don't need to post a single thing if you don't want to.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 18, 2013 -> 12:07 PM) I dont have a facebook account. I get why a young High School me may have wanted one, when my ego/persona was driven by adulation. But at some point I decided that I didnt give a f*** about what other people thought. The people that were just illusory friends from High School because of cliques and other bulls***, I could care less. I can still be useful for organizing parties/events, talking with a group of people (groups), etc.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2013 -> 11:46 AM) I also hate "look I'm traveling for work, and I had a BEER in the airport" I've traveled extensively for work for 7-8 years, there is nothing great about it at all. Yeah, I've got one friend who posts multiple times a day, and it's always either checking in at some random hotel or airport or some political macro reposting.

I knocked myself out cold three times!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 18, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) The kid is a five year old boy. He has a ton of energy and he needs some work on dealing with other kids. I thought a team sport would be good for him. He has always been way bigger than other kids his age (hell he weighs more than my 8 year old girl) and he has had some aggression issues. It seemed like a perfect fit. Now, no way. He can do something else... baseball, basketball, soccer, whatever. MMA!

I've heard insurance companies can be pretty s***ty in that regard.