iamshack

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) The injured player should get the chance to get off the field in time, either by himself or with help. They easily could have spiked that ball and kicked a FG. As a Rams fan, I'm glad they didn't, but it just sucks to lose that way. A Rams fan? What happened to your Cowboys?

So both Alshon and Brandon are starting.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) I'd take RG3 on the Bears I'd take Cousins

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 08:55 AM) Yeah, but they lost to the bills last week and started the game healthy. Let's stop kidding ourselves that this is some awesome team only held back by God being a meanie. Oh, you're right. I guess I'll just watch re-runs of the Golden Girls instead.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 08:16 AM) In fairness, the 49ers aren't anywhere near full strength themselves Yeah...I'm just tired of it either being the backup qb or now our two main weapons on offense. Just frustrating since it's been the case for a large number of our games the last few years against elite opponents.

It would be nice to play one of these elite teams with a full deck for once.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 07:27 AM) Schefter said that it's 75 percent that neither Alshon or Marshall will play. I don't think I've ever seen two guys get listed as questionable and both not play...We must be hoping they don't start game-planning to dial up the pressure w/o those guys.

Where are you guys hearing this?

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 13, 2014 -> 05:46 PM) was the kid acting annoying? Not everyone is as brilliant as you. He grew up probably receiving the same kind of punishment. I'm not excusing that behavior, but I do think this is cultural behavior. If you read his texts, he honestly didn't believe what he did was wrong, only that he took it too far. There is another America out there other than white hipster land.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 13, 2014 -> 05:19 PM) Yea usually I'm very pro spanking, but at 4 years old?! That is just awful and this comming from someone who was spanked alot. My parents found anything they could find to spank me when I was bad at the time. I was older than 4 freaking years old though. I think the other thing is, it's not like he has a close relationship with this child. The kid called him Daddy Peterson...the only contributions he's really making to the kids life are sperm, financial, and pain... If this kid lived with Peterson I'd be a little more understanding.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 13, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) Apparently AP told the kid's mom he nailed the kid in the balls. WTF? He made him pull his pants down and then whipped him with a stick...

The only thing he's got going for himself is sheer ignorance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) Man you millennials had it easy if you didn't know what a switch was. My grandmother used to tell us to go get one in the yard. I don't think she ever actually made us do it though. Didn't Peterson's infant child die last year or something as well?

I'm the same way with Great Danes. There are so many great breeds out there, and obviously many of them share similar traits...but once you've had success with a breed, it's hard not to stick with that same breed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) I feel the exact opposite. Sometimes it feels like Cutler is to blame for global warming and war in the middle east. He's a polarizing figure.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) There has to be some level of evidence for the police to charge - eyewitnesses, evidence of injury, whatever. Complete strangers wouldn't just be able to say "Player X beat me up!" when they were just in a club at the same time this one time. In the Kaep example, he was never charged with a crime, so he never would have been suspended. I fail to see the harm to the player if (1) the team can't cut them while they are out (put them on some sort of special DL while pending); and (2) they are still receiving their paychecks. Take the McDonald example currently with the 49ers. If he gets charged with DV (and I'm not sure if this has happened yet or not), I would way rather the NFL suspend him with pay while things get sorted out than have the NFL sweep it under the rug. It's no different than what happens with police officers - suspended with pay while the investigation is ongoing. EDIT: Note that in my earlier post I said I wouldn't have a problem with the scenario outlined above. I also don't have a problem with the league waiting for (1) damning evidence (read the video in the Rice case - or even just the video of him dragging her out of the elevator, unconscious, by the hair); or (2) waiting out the legal process. But I will note that DV cases can be some of the most difficult to prove. Witnesses recant or don't show up - regardless of subpoena. Without that evidence, the police officer is entirely reliant on the victim's hearsay - inadmissible - and circumstantial evidence of injury to prove a case. So waiting out a conviction, in DV cases in particular, can lead to punishment at all, even when the act actually occurred. I prefer the scenarios outlined in your edits. I agree that in some cases, the suspension based on charges alone would be appropriate, but in others, I think it is patently unfair and wrong. A case by case approach is probably reasonable, one in which video or dna evidence or some sort of other irrefutable evidence is present.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) I'm pretty sure if the NFL has suspended you, considering what they swept under the rug this time, they have some pretty damning evidence you have done something wrong. Was Kapernick ever charged with anything? The NFL does have a security team that supposedly investigates these matters. I would leave the decision up to them. If, in their opinion, there is enough to reasonably suspect the act was committed, go ahead and suspend him. There are always going to be BS charges. There are also always going to be aquittals for people who were quilty. Sometimes you can see through them, sometimes you can't. But for a he said/she said, I do agree I think they should have more than just the alleged victim's account. I am sure everyone is aware there are always going to be money grabs, just like most know big names may get charged on shaky at best evidence for political reasons. The goal to me is to get the players that should be punished, punished, and let their punishment be a deterent for others. I was watching something yesterday, and they were talking to an ex player who said many of these NFL guys got to the NFL by using anger, and they can't just shut it down once they get there. He specifically mentioned fatherless players, and then it was pointed out Rice's father was gunned down when he was 1 year old. We're not talking about the NFL's current process, we're talking about illinilaw's proposal, which would suspend a player simply based on charges.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) They've been paid for the missed time. Good name restored. And they can move on. There's no affirmative right to play in the NFL. And if the NFL is serious about making DV offenses punitive, then making them sit (with pay) while the charges are sorted out is the strongest stance the NFL can take. That's horrible! Do you understand the power absolute strangers would have over these guys then? They deserve due process just like anyone else. I don't like this at all.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 08:50 AM) NBC freakin fired OJ just because he was accused of murder. He gets acquitted and they don't hire him back with some back pay. Total BS. There is no video of OJ killing anyone, he was acquitted at trial, yet all of the lynch mob still thinks he's a murderer. Talk about a guy who got a bad deal. What on god's earth are you talking about? I'm not talking about murder...I'm saying what if some woman just accuses a guy of domestic violence and then the court finds it was entirely frivolous nonsense? Like for instance the woman who accused Kaepernick of raping her? So he gets suspended for 4 games (under this proposal) and then when we all find out it was complete nonsense, we say, oh, sorry about that Kaep?

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 08:32 AM) Without better evidence (read a videotape), I don't have a problem with letting the appeal run its course re: Greg Hardy. BUT in light of pretty heinous allegations against him, I hope he gets treated similarly to Rice if the conviction is upheld. Ultimately, I think these guys deserve a certain level of due process. Rice's case is unique because the videotape is there for the whole world to see - there is no denying that Rice knocked his significant other out. Let McDonald and Hardy have their day (plural in Hardy's case) in court and then, with a conviction, bring down the hammer. Note that I would also be ok with the league suspending DV offenders with pay while the charges are pending and then dropping the hammer (suspension w/out pay) once (if) there's a conviction. That would truly send a message that the NFL wants to eradicate DV from the league. And what if there is an acquittal?

The only problem with Goldens are they have been overbred, and that has caused a lot of problems with the gene pool, and caused a lot of great dogs to suffer. Almost every time a breed of dog captures the imagination and heart of the American public, the breed takes a step back because breeders go apes*** and start pumping litters out like it's a damn assembly line. It's happened with German Shepherds, Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers, Pitbulls, Chihuahuas, Yorkshire Terriers, German Shorthair Pointers....you name it...especially if there is a movie or popular tv show featuring a famous dog... As a result, Golden Retrievers often suffer from hip dysplasia, heart problems, epilepsy, etc. You really have to do your homework and find a solid, responsible breeder when getting one of these breeds, because if not, you are really taking a chance.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 07:15 PM) No shock this team is struggling to score without Viciedo and Flowers in the lineup, as they've been nearly the only source of power the last 3 weeks. It will be interesting to see if there's actually more than 4-5 thousand at the game tomorrow. Not a sentence I would have thought I'd see, basically ever

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 05:47 PM) Have you watched the video? I have. They were both drunk. Appeared to be arguing. Spitting. She raised her hand as if to strike him in the face. He got angry and knocked the s*** out of her. Completely unwarranted, excessive, reckless, irresponsible, evil, etc. he could have killed her. She was a non-cooperative victim in the state's case. She then married him. Defended him in the NFL's investigatory process. Who the hell knows what either of them are thinking/doing. No one, I repeat, no one, has justified or defended what he's done. Pointing out her behavior in the sequence of events does not equate to doing so, either.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 05:32 PM) This info didn't come from either of them, its from hotel security. Where did you see that she was spitting on him? On the drive home from work....they have a legal/sports segment every Thursday, and the lawyer and host said it appeared they were both spitting on one another in the elevator.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 05:32 PM) Yup. BTW, Shack, I pointed out something that I don't think was pointed out before - his actions after the punches. I think that's relevant/interesting. The fact that he dragged her out was pointed out numerous times, but your intent, as evidenced by the way you led your post off, but to take a jab at posters here, not to bring something "relevant/interesting" to the table.