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All I know is my best friend's bachelor party is here in Vegas this weekend, so I am happy with his timing

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 11:35 AM) In no way did I do this, but thanks. I merely stated that every President enters office with his share of problems, which is a fact. I never compared them. My point was pretty simple. Every President inherits some sort of mess, or some sort of mess occurs when they're in office. What bothers me about Obama is his incessant blaming of Bush, DESPITE the fact that Obama knew what he was getting into BEFORE he took office. It's not like he inhered some mess he wasn't expecting. Not only did he expect it, but promised to fix it. I have no problem with that. But that's what he needs to do instead of playing the blame Bush game constantly. It may just be my opinion, but when a leader blames others for failure, they're a failure as a leader. And I'll even ignore the first two years of blame...I'm human, I can at least get that. But it's still going on today, and it's a sign of a weak leader. Well if you didn't bring it up for comparison's sakes, then why did you bring it up? You wanted to form a list of other historic events of the 21st century? Were you playing Jeopardy!? I don't think Obama blames Bush too much at all. I do agree (and I think he would too) that he made too many promises in his last campaign, but every candidate makes a bunch of promises he can't keep, let's be honest. To simply look at his Administration now and say "He didn't keep his promises! Unemployment is still at 8%! The average worker earns less! The economy is in the crapper!" is a bit naive. I really, really don't care to argue about this anymore though, because we both have pointed out that political arguments are pointless. Why waste our time?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 13, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) You keep comparing it to other historic moments to make it appear less historic. In comparison to other historic events, such as the Great Depression, it hardly registers, but the same can be done by comparing the current recession to things like WW2, which by comparison is also a blip. That isnt the point, regardless of your continued attempts to lessen the significance of one event by comparing it to another unrelated event. I'm simply stating, that the .com boom/bust was historic, memorable, and books have been written about it...because it was historic, and not just to tech/finance types. Yeah, I do keep doing that. Probably because my point in calling this a historic collapse was directly in regards to the challenges it has posed to the Obama Administration, and the challenge it would have been to any Administration that took Office in '09. One simply cannot view Obama's Administration in a vacuum, as if nothing that came before it had any impact on things. You chose to compare the .com bust to the housing and banking crisis of '08-'09. It's simply not on par, not even close. Call it historic all you want. I don't really mind. But the two events are not particularly comparable.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 07:00 PM) That doesn't make it not historic. I hate double negatives. I know you tech and financial folks like to think it was historic, but in 75 years, in the history books in school, the .com bust will only be relevant in that it showed that the proliferation of the internet and the tech industry did have some limits. It will be absolutely nowhere near as an important of an event as the housing and banking collapse in '08-'09. But if you want to insist it was historic, heck, I won't stop you.

Happy for Ichiro. The rest of them I only happy for in that it makes the Tigers have to play 4 potential road games.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 05:11 PM) How about a 5000+ Nasdaq. Yeah, it was a fairly large occurrence, but I don't think it had nearly the effect that the housing crisis, banks collapsing, and the auto industry nearly collapsing had, do you?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) This is nothing new and has been a part of the process from the beginning. Unless there's a reason to compromise, you stick to your demands. Politics 101. What would be a reason to compromise if there are none now?

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) if the Democrats (or anyone) doesn't want partisanship, there has to be some level of compromise and an understanding of the other sides view. if you just think they are always wrong, on everything, well you have nowhere to start. your open is basically, "you guys are always wrong, do it our way". That will fail every time. i just don't see how someone can complain about partisanship while saying the other party has done nothing right for 4 years. that's as partisan as you can get. I said nothing about this being either party's fault. I was basically implying it is both of their faults. Although you failed to infer that.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) actually, it is. you can't even name 1 thing the GOP has done that you agree with. time to re-evaluate. perhaps you are part of the problem. In the last 4 years, there honestly are not many things the GOP has done that I agree with. But I'd certainly be willing to discuss the issues if there was ever any actual discussion taking place. Because I am not naming the wonderful things the Reps have done recently that makes me part of the problem? How does that logic follow?

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) so basically, you are complaining that politics are so partisan, but you insist the other side doesn't do anything right . they only hurt "your team". your intentions were less noble than I thought. That is certainly not what I said, but if you choose to interpret it that way, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:48 AM) like what? what have they done that you agree with. Well they clearly decided after they lost the last Presidential election that they would do everything in their power to stonewall Obama, and they certainly have carried that out effectively.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:51 AM) I can't speak for "we", I can speak for me. I am better off now on an overall scale than I've ever been, I said this much in the Democrat thread. The issue is most of (if not all) of that gain is negated by local taxes and fees surging. That said, I was better off in 2009 than I was in 2006, or 2007, and I'm better off now than I was in 2009. I'm a bit of an exception to the rule when it comes to this, however, as every year since my career began I've been better off the year after, successively, regardless of the economy. Me too. Probably just more coincidence than anything else.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:34 AM) I replied to show an example that all Presidents inherit something bad, to some degree, some worse than others. Obama at least held an advantage in that he knew what he was inheriting before he inherited it, so if he didn't want the job, he didn't have to take it. Some of them enter office and inherit stuff nobody knows about yet...but that excuse aside, we elect these leaders to lead us out of these issues, not stand there and blame everyone else for failing to do so. But as usual, my point is met with typical partisan bulls***. Gotcha...fair enough.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:30 AM) very noble of you. so why don't you lead by stating all the things you think Romney, Ryan and the GOP have done correctly. I voted for GWB twice...I'm not a democrat or a republican, I'm an independent. I give credit to the reps for having the spine to get things done...it just so happens that I'm sick of many of their values at this point. Meanwhile, I like many of the dems ideals better, but they seem to be too big of p*****s to actually get things done. I do admit I believe Barack is the better of the two candidates. But I also believed GWB was the better of the candidates when it came to Gore and Kerry.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) Sorry back. Of course I'd agree with that, but that's not what he said. After I mentioned Bush had inherited a mess of his own, he basically said the .com collapse wasn't historic. Well, it was, and he continues to be wrong by claiming otherwise. I wasn't saying it's historic in comparison to X or Y, I was merely saying it was historic. And it was. But you replied to what I posted originally...

This thread is a perfect barometer of where politics are in this country today. No one wants to work through the differences. Everyone just wants to forward their own agenda and back their team.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Do you know what atomic burpees are? It kicks it up a few notches as well. I've probably done them, but what are they?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:48 AM) Obama would have liked to end a significant portion of the tax cuts but could not thanks to Republican opposition. However, you are still missing Biden's point. Ryan (and the rest of the Republicans) didn't become so concerned about the deficit until 1/20/09. Before that, they were happy to spend heavily while cutting revenues. They are being dishonest when they ignore their role in creating such huge deficit holes. Ryan was directly involved in those budgets and now wants to pretend like he's some deficit-hawk budget genius. And that is a point I think Barack has to make, even if he has to admit to some mistakes. Everyone knows there have been plenty anyways.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) Um, seriously? The .com collapse was historic in nature. You fail at stock market. Even with the .com collapse, things were nowhere near as bad as in '08-'09. Agree?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) First, this is the case with just about every administration - you inherit certain problems and by timing alone you get credit for fixing certain problems. Second, Obama and the Dems act as if they had no role in it either. Both are to blame for the policies of the last 15 years. The state of things as Obama inherited them 4 years ago was historic in nature...these were not "certain problems." GMAFB. Secondly, as I said, both in the post you replied to and the one I referenced after the first debate, I think the strategy is better to admit there have been struggles; no one is perfect and these problems were extraordinarily complex. But the policies of the last 15 years? I suppose one could fault Clinton for not using the economic conditions during his term to invest more in energy independence, but what other current issues are you going to link back to his term?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) The problem with that is Obama continued those same policies, wars, extended the Bush tax cuts, added more tax cuts on top of them, and...well...there we have it. I agree, there have been plenty of struggles for the Obama Administration...but my issue with the way the Republicans have been framing the state of things is just that they act as if they had no part in how we all got here..when in fact they are a very large part in how we got here...but the Obama camp seemed hesitant to point this out at the last debate, largely because they did not want to have to answer for their own struggles...so instead, they chose to just take it and put their head down... I posted after the first debate that this is the response that was needed...Biden does a very good job of saying some of the things that Barack just can't say, or puts himself at much greater risk of saying.

Thank you, Biden...this is exactly the sort of thing that Joe can say that is more difficult for Barack....and what needed to be said.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 01:35 AM) 7 months and nobody wants to talk about a relationship? Anyways, wite has a date tomorrow night Tell us about the special guy...

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 09:16 AM) It's useful in very specific circumstances...I haven't had a removable battery in years, but even when I did I never used my secondary batteries, to the point where I just stopped bringing them with. Especially for myself, in the tech field, I'm always around some sort of charger, so as long as I have a device that can last a day with moderate use, I'm good to go. I find this to be true for most people. My friend is a degenerate sports bettor, and he uses is constantly betting on games and checking scores and often times when we are out betting the in-running lines...the gaming app chews through his battery like a knife through butter...so he has two extra batteries he brings to be able to reload.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 10:04 AM) 10 min calorie burn. Good for mobile workers. I do it in hotel rooms all the time, easier than a full workout but good enough to burn off a beer or so. Now change it to frog burpees and you'll be able to have even more beers