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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) Which was the entire basis of my thinking that Humber could be decent this year. But expecting him to be Cy Young? No that would be lunacy. Cy Young? No one is expecting him to be Cy Young...so your argument is essentially if he isn't AS good as he has been through 9 starts, he should be put in the bullpen? Even if he comes back down to earth a bit, and his FIP doesn't really suggest that he is doing this with smoke and mirrors, he is still far more deserving of a spot in this rotation. I don't really understand your argument here whatsoever.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) He has a WHIP under 1.0, a H/9 of 6.4 and a K/9 of 5.2. Those are not sustainable numbers for Phil Humber. Maybe not that low, but there is absolutely nothing that says there is a huge correction coming, other than his past history, which honestly shouldn't concern any of us. His issue was never whether he had a good arm or good stuff.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) I'm going with history here. Humber hasn't had a stretch anywhere like this since 2006, when he was at A+ and AA. If I am going to bet on performance, I am guessing that 99 times out of a 100, the guys with a history are going to outdo the guys who have never done anything remotely close to this before. For every Jose Batista out there, there are a ton of Chris Sheltons littering the landscape. Believe me, I was about the only one on this entire website who said that Humber could be serviceable this year, but expecting to outperform the starting 5 this year? Crazy. We're 1/3 of the way through the season and it's not even really close! When you compare the upside of putting him in the pen versus the risk, it's not even a decision. We've seen Cooper dramatically change the careers of many pitchers that have come through here, whether it was Esteban Loaiza, Matt Thornton, Jose Contreras, or Gavin Floyd. Why the hell would you start questioning this now? What if we would have put Gavin in the bullpen in 2008 after 10 starts? This is pure lunacy...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:12 AM) Do people really think that Phil Humber will finish the season with better numbers than the rest of the starting 5? f***, I thought I was the anointed homer. Did you think Jose Bautista was going to turn into the best hitter in baseball last year? Should the Blue Jays have benched him? Humber, while he has not had a good MLB career, does have a plus curve, and he was a first round draft pick. He's not doing this with smoke and mirrors. You don't put him in the pen simply because he doesn't have the track record.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:00 AM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...own-in-pen.html Kill me now. Yeah, let's put our best starter in the pen that will help this club win more games. So so so stupid. I don't care he isn't yet established, but moving him while he is going strong is just dumb. If he goes out and gets bombed the next two starts, that would be more acceptable, but for Ozzie to talk about this s*** now just shows what a moron he is. Is it possible for our idiot manager to just say nothing and say we'll cross that bridge when we get to it? And on a sidenote, how many more starts did Juan Pierre buy himself with a lucky ass game-winning single? Wow. The only possible justification I can see for this is that they put Humber in the pen and audition Danks/Jackson/Mark for possible suitors. I don't know why you can't just stick with the 6 man rotation otherwise.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2011 -> 06:09 AM) Putting Phil Humber in the bullpen because he's not paid enough is ****ing baseball suicide. Are we actually hearing this, or are you guys just speculating?

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 27, 2011 -> 07:47 AM) Jackson's the one who needs to head to the pen, IMO. He's the one who most frequently stresses our pen anyway by not going deep into games. We also don't have as many compelling reasons to keep Edwin "happy", as he's the one most likely to NOT be here next season. Jackson has pitched 61 1/3 innings. Gavin, Mark, and John have all been at 66 or 67. Let's not get crazy here.

Happy Birthday, Bartender...

Derrick Rose has no concept of time. Time after time after time he lollygags around at the end of games.

Rose is so mindf***ed against this team. why can't we continue ro run some semblance of an offense at the end of games instead of the Derrick Rose isolation show?

??? Bulls***.

The Heat are either starting to wear down, or decided to try and conserve energy once they didn't run away with this game early...

QUOTE (G&T @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:58 PM) The only thing separating them is the decision. Jordan never flopped like James does, and he certainly never ran around on the court like a pansy hugging his teammates in the 4th quarter.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:56 PM) I'm sure if you lived anywhere but Chicago in the 90's you'd have an answer. ? I don't think many people hated Jordan like James is hated.

Game. Let's get one in South Beach, fellas!

QUOTE (daa84 @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:54 PM) uhhhhhh steve kerr you are wrong And so is Reggie trying to back him up...

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) Yeah, but if he was warming up, wouldn't that mean he's out of the rotation. And I still stand by wanting a 6-man, but it won't happen. No. Floyd was warming up a few days before his start too. I don't even know if he was in the pen anyways. It looked like just Sergio in there to me.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Sign says E-Jax is warming up...out of the rotation? Nah, Sergio will come in. Probably just a bullpen session.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) I'm not watching, what went down? Juan hit a chopper to first down the line and the pitcher forgot to cover. Then he tried to slide into first to beat Juan and the throw bounced away.

Juan!

QUOTE (fathom @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) Pathetic at bat by Konerko. Farmer was criticizing him earlier tonight about how he's not being aggressive enough at the plate. I love PK, but he's always seemed to struggle in that scenario...

Why do we have such a big f***ing problem scoring a double to lead off the inning

QUOTE (Cali @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:09 PM) I would just trade him now at this point. See what we could get. It's obvious he will NEVER have that kind of breakout success here on the South Side. He's never had run support seemingly ever. I just don't know what I would even want for him...two high-ceiling SP prospects?

Ok Q, knock him in...

QUOTE (fathom @ May 26, 2011 -> 08:05 PM) I'm very confident he won't be. I think it will be Danks if he loses his next start. I don't think it will be Danks simply because it could really hurt his trade value...