JUSTgottaBELIEVE

A month ago I was arguing Acuna and Baty was a fair return for Robert imo (to which I received much criticism). If you can’t even get Arroyo without eating cash then yea his trade value is already near pennies and might as well hold on to him. Just now, I was simply pointing out that trading him before the season starts might not be a baseball decision but a business decision instead. I don’t think anyone here can completely rule that out.

^and you think that’s gone well for the White Sox over the past year?

Santander stays on the field, Robert doesn’t. Availability is important. Robert’s trade value would be much higher if he played as much as Santander.

You don’t think Jerry is pushing for the organization to operate profitably again on annual basis? Come on man, he’s leading the charge…

Never said they weren’t. Just listing the numbers in play and why a huge profit isn’t guaranteed even with a crazy low payroll #.

They reportedly lost $28M in 2023 with a payroll about $100M more expensive than where they’re at right now. So if everything else remained the same outside of payroll they would stand to make ~$70M in 2025. BUT…they also lowered ticket prices this season, attendance will be down significantly compared to 2023, fixed costs presumably have increased slightly since then due to inflation, and presumably the tv revenue is down significantly since 2023. So, yea, I don’t know if a “huge” profit is a sure thing even with a payroll in the mid 60s.

Uh huh

That’s not how it works. If the board decides they need to push payroll low enough to ensure positive cash flow from operations this year then that’s what they’re going to do.

Or board pressure to recoup part of their operating losses since 2019…

And sadly, we could only dream of this type of return for Robert now…

And if Jerry is really that hard up for cash, the decision to trade him before the season might not be a baseball decision alone but one made just to move the contract off the books.

Remember when you argued ad nauseam last month about how terrific Robert’s contract was and all the value it had? Lol

Honestly, the Sox but it’s close.

Yea because the prospect of playing in a minor league stadium this season is super attractive for a free agent.

The longer it drags on, Alonso is going to sign for a lot less than those projections we saw a couple months ago just like Kim signed for a lot less than projected.

Who blamed what on whose kids? Me mentioning my kids are totally disengaged with following the Sox because of the current state of this sad franchise gives you the right to say they need therapy? What the f*** is wrong with you? You’re a total clown

Yea, it’s better to take shots at other people’s children like @WestEddy. Only the bottom of the barrel and true scumbags do that. Not worried about missing any of those at the park this season.

Sounds like you’re still an asshole ☑️

Think I’ll save the money, like Jerry likes to, and take them to a few Chicago Dogs games again instead. Much closer to home and easier to get to while saving a lot of money with great seats to watch a game.

We’ve been checking out the Chicago Dogs instead. Far cheaper and great family fun.

Thanks but I don’t need life lessons and parenting advice from @WestEddy asshole

I’ve conceded that they will never be a real contender as long as Jerry owns the team so I’m not worried about future hypotheticals. Under that premise, at least give me a few players my kids can cheer for today and a non embarrassing mlb product.

#1 it’s not “my” money #2 they’d still be running a team payroll well below league average even after those signings #3 70+ wins led by a franchise player that my kids could actually feel not embarrassed to wear his jersey is a lot better than whatever they’re going to put out there this season and next

Over in the ZIPS projections thread people are telling me the Sox are going to win 60-62 games as currently constructed. So adding 3 all star caliber players and the team wouldn’t see any improvement from that?? I stand corrected, @WestEddy said they’re projected for mid 60 wins as currently constructed…

Santander, Alonso, and Kim starts to change the story though. Have to start somewhere and get past the one year rentals eventually.