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Frankie won’t even make it to July so it’s pointless. Money down the drain. Lorenzen was very good for the Tigers last season and he returned a 45 FV second basemen at the trade deadline. Mind you, that’s the best case scenario July trade return for any of these guys. It doesn’t move the needle if all you’re banking on is the hopes they stay healthy and productive enough into July to return a middling prospect.

I could get on board with that. Sox still have a big hole in RF. I don’t think they like/trust Colas in RF. Colas likely slides down into a reserve role by opening day imo.

Personally, I think it’s more likely Giolito bets on himself like Bellinger did last winter. I could see something like 1 year $20-22M with an option year/buyout attached.

Lol. Those guys all suck. Eloy certainly has his warts but that list of pitchers is a dumpster fire. Sox will get similar or better production from the junk they already have.

And that there is a steaming pile of s%*#. No thanks. I’d rather take my chances with Touki, Scholtens, Banks, etc. for a fraction of the cost in a non-competitive season. And then in the second half of the season I’d like to see younger guys get a chance - Nastrini, Eder, Mena, Burke, whoever the Sox acquire in the Cease trade. I’d also like to see the Sox sign additional FA hitters on one year show me contracts because right now this lineup is the worst I’ve seen in years, maybe ever.

Mets would be the perfect landing spot as far as the Sox/Cease trade are concerned. I hope it happens.

They were wrong on years but spot on AAV. Actually, they were at $13.33M AAV so if Giolito signs for 1 year he’s gonna get $22M right? Again, nowhere near $14M…

Huh? MLBTR projects Giolito to receive 2/$44M. Nowhere near $14M. No thanks.

Sox should keep Eloy. The payroll is already down dramatically from last season’s team so it’s not like they need the salary relief. There aren’t many available free agent bats at a reasonable cost or players in the system to replace his bat so there’s no sense in dumping him for another Jake Eder.

I agree with that. The Sox are so barren throughout but I just think their starting pitching is especially weak. You add AJSS/Waldrep/Murphy to Schultz/Nastrini/Eder/Bush and now you have something to build from at least. Still not nearly good enough but hopefully you find at least two quality MLB starters out of that group and keep building.

Who cares? This team isn’t contending until 2026, best case scenario.

I would love a package of AJSS/Waldrep/Murphy. Wouldn’t surprise me if both AJSS and Waldrep are consensus top 50 mlb prospects by august. I also like Murphy after following him a bit in high school and it’s fun that he’s a local kid. You could do far worse than Murphy as your third piece/flier.

I like Petty but Lowder scares me as the headliner. I think an all pitching package from the Braves can beat this one from the Reds.

AJSS + Waldrep + Murphy would be great imo. I think Getz realizes he’ll never be able to sign a high end FA starting pitcher so he’s going to have to draft/trade for them. It is what it is.

Ok, hypothetically, if the Orioles have the ability to extend Cease for 5 years / $175M as part of the trade Cease’s trade value is significantly higher?

So if Cease were to agree to a 5 year extension at say 5 years / $175M to add to the two years he’s already under control (so you have him for 7 more seasons), you believe his trade value is even higher? I’m not so sure about that.

I don’t think so. Glasnow landed a former top 100 mlb prospect that has shown he can succeed in mlb and still has many years of control as well as the Dodgers #13 prospect. I don’t see much surplus value in Glasnow’s contract that he just signed either. A Cease return should do much better than Pepiot/DeLuca and I would compare the value of Pepiot/DeLuca similar to Basallo + a low level minor leaguer.

Right, hence my comparison to Jung (right handed power hitting 3b) and Santana (power hitting switch hitting catcher that couldn’t stick at catcher long term).

So Mayo is a young Josh Jung and Basallo is a young Carlos Santana pretty much? Both blocked in Orioles system. I don’t see why that’s delusional for a cheap established #3 starter with #1 upside.

This offseason sure makes it seem like Benintendi could be moved if the Sox really wanted. 4 years $66M is nothing these days.

With Runyon about to lose his starting job, packers will be starting three offensive lineman from the 2022 draft taken in the 3rd, 4th, and 7th rounds…

And yet their top two running backs are averaging 3.5 and 3.7 YPC. That’s gotta be the lowest in the league for a team’s top two backs. So do they just suck at run blocking and are elite at pass blocking? The packers run game is pretty non-existent outside of Love scrambles.

I’m not saying they will trade him, I’m posing a hypothetical if they did.

I understand depth may be a concern but how many other teams have 7 mlb top 100 prospects in their system? Which I assume the Sox would have after trading Cease and Robert.

If they trade Cease and Robert for prospects that easily puts the Sox farm system as the top in MLB correct? Plus another top 5 pick coming next draft.