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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) And yet, when I post the exact same thing in the AG thread, I get ignored by everyone but Tex. That's easy Balta, anyone who attacks the ACLU for accepting unpopular clients should also be attacking here and anyone who defends the ACLU should also be defending here. That would be a consistent ethic. But instead there will be a whole lot of rationalizing why one is ok and the other isn't. As I posted before, I believe our system works best when everyone has access and with proper representation. In that forum, with both sides in a fair debate, goodness results.

The NFL is all about team image. Unlike the NBA which has marketed their stars, the NFL likes to market their teams. This is on par with say a record setting slugger on steroids.

I wish the GOP would regan control. the GOPerheads around here have been nuts since they lost.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) So that's disgusting, but still not nearly on the scale of torturing an animal for months or years. What is your point? My point was with so many people defending Vick, and they all aren't idiots and normally depraved, I tried to understand it, and couldn't. I looked for analogies and none of them fit, none of them reached the disgust level for harming domesticated dogs. I just couldn't seem to get in the minds of the predominantly black sports figures and entertainers who tried to offer an explanation. I looked at what I wrote and that seemed pretty clear

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 06:48 PM) I love that thread title, this ought to get you people's panties all in a wad again, so here goes. (And I'm kidding about that part). No you're not

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) Where is this from? If you said John 3:16, of course I will award you partial credit. But more importantly, it is the inscription on the back of the package of delicious Carolina County Snacks® Hot Old Fashioned Fried Fat Back (with skin attached) Pork Crack'lins I'm enjoying here at my desk. The More You Know® You are such a southerner. Chicharones

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 07:18 PM) I wish NSF would give me a grant to do research like that. The State of Texas bought a couple slot machines so one of my professors could study gambling addictions.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 08:45 PM) Oh yea, another "scandal". This is really nothing. He worked at a law firm that defended someone from Iran, I agree with this, the rest was bulls***.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 07:01 PM) It doesn't matter, that's what you people don't get. It WAS, and IS, and WILL BE, a part of the war on terror. Why is that SO hard to get? Why doesn't anyone want to admit that? Because it might make Bush partially right? It doesn't matter - it WAS a part of the war on terror, WMD's or not, because of the situation over there. The case was made VERY poorly, but it was a part of the larger war on terror. Period. Sure it was apart of the war on terror, we needed to get those WMD Now shall we debate if it serves our current needs to have our military stuck there without many forces to deploy elsewhere? I'd say absent of the WMD, it makes for an even worse case to invade Iraq. I don't see where this makes Bush (and I think it is wrong to give Bush all the credit or blame, but since he's your guy you want him to be "right") right, in fact I think it ultimately makes us wrong.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 06:13 PM) I can't think of a team I'd rather he start off against than the Detroit Lions. I am certain that comes into play.

QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 01:42 PM) Yep. Jose Valentin. Joey Cora

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 06:09 PM) You're forgetting one thing about Bears. These are godless killing machines out to destroy all mankind. It is simply lunacy to leave ourselves exposed to them by leaving them alive. fixed

QUOTE(ROC Sox Fan @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 03:48 PM) This is because Buehrle killed a bear on his hunting trip with Thome, AJ and Dye, right? The deal was he gets a bear he gets to skip his start. Is that why Grossman isn't starting?

I really do not have an issue with whomever an attorney represents in court. I believe our system works best when every defendant, ever last one of them, has a dream team of attorneys. No matter how despicable their client may be.

I do hope this isn't a one and your done move. He's got to be "the" guy for at least the month of October. It's going to take at least a week or two for his game legs to get under him. We can't judge him on his next 32 attempts.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 02:09 PM) This was never about "hunting" dogs. Forget the specific animal issue, that's not the point - its the way things were done. Hunting a bear, eating the meet and using the hide is being a carnivore. Its also not cruel, by most peoples' definition. What they did - torturing domesticated animals, subjecting them to all kinds of unnatural violence, then killing them because they were no longer of use - was disgusting. I guess you are not familiar with a form of bear hunting popular in the south. Basically let the dogs out at dusk and start drinking beer. Soon you will hear the dogs on the scent of a bear. Jump in your truck, follow the radio tracking on your dog's collar, and wait for the bear to be treed by the dogs, walk up to the tree with the bear stuck up there. Draw lots for who gets the kill, and blast away. http://www.smarthunter.com/newsletter/black_bear_hunting.htm Like I said, I found it disgusting, but interesting that so many people would come to his defense. I just don't understand it.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 05:40 PM) Have you seen the statistics. You would have to smoke about 900 joints I believe to overdose. Imagine the amount of White Castle you would need to consume to satisfy that hunger. Did you read my post? Are you high? I said I agree you CAN'T od on weed. And btw, at the White Castle reference

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 05:21 PM) You're seriously going to count the 32 sporadic attempts he had with the 2nd team last year? Howsabout we do complete seasons? 76-103-79-86-98 Fair enough. He hasn't played regularly in a couple years, and he's going to be so much better than Rex. I hope you are correct.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:59 PM) Why would you let Orton go esp. since he's not a FA? I clearly think you're right on letting Grossman walk, and either drafting or trading for one before the start of next season, but I can't see how it makes sense to give up on a 3rd rounder who's been sitting on the bench for the better part of 2 seasons now without at least giving him a shot to be a backup again next year.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:09 PM) Hey Mr. Pessimism. How many career starts of Greise's have you seen? Oh less then 10? Wait, less than 3!?!? Wow, at least you know what you are talking about. As I've touted countless times before, Griese is an improvement over Grossman, as you can plainly see with his 84.5 passer rating compared to Grossman's 69.3 rating. Griese also has a career TD/INT of +24 (on some rather bad teams, fyi), while Rex is a whopping -4. To say Griese is not an upgrade is to spout uneducated post after post after post. Career ratings are less meaningful without looking at the trend. 97-79-62 isn't very encouraging. I say go for it, but to predict he's noticibly better next week is a stretch.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:49 PM) As you should because you are resorting to completely twisiting people's posts just to make an argument and pad a thread. You can't OD on weed. It's just physically impossible. Nobody here is saying it doesn't impair one when used. I agree you can't OD on weed. I agree that weed is probably less harmful than alcohol. It wasn't mentioned, but I will also state I believe weed is illegal because of racist attitudes back in the 20s. But people are kidding themselves if they think pot has never contributed to a death. You are twisting what I wrote, I never said you could OD. But weed would be the only drug where someone wasn't impaired and got in an accident. Cold medicines do it. Alcohol of course, prescription drugs all the time. But y'all think that would NEVER happen with pot.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:38 PM) These people have one skill. They're a bolt tightener. They can't do anything else. That is true for many manufacturing plants. When I was Executive Director for the South Texas Manufacturers. Assoc. I was part of a team that looked a retraining opportunities for displaced textile workers, mostly from Levi's who sponsored the project. What we found was what you just posted, they may have twenty years experience, but it was the same one year, repeated twenty times. The most valuable job skill they possessed, which is big in this career sphere, is a proven track record of arriving on time and getting to work every day. This was contrasted with the cross training that workers received in most big plants, and especially in large, unionized, shops. The Union shops were smart enough to know that job skills were their most important assett. So it would be highly unusual if they could not work other stations and run different machines. Sadly, loyal workers hurt you when their skills can not become mroe valuable. In an ideal world workers get raises as they make more money for the company.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:34 PM) I have done extensive research on this topic. And I do mean extensive. And I have some news for you. In the 1980's Japan kicked our ass all over the place in the manufacturing of autos. There are SOME myths in this thread (which have been corrected as we have went along), but a very few. Isn't that what I said? Let's look? . You just can't hit reply fast enough to argue.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 04:31 PM) I think it's legit, but I also think that these people have to realize that they don't rule the automotive world like they did 20 years ago. It's only legit if they realize that $30 per hour nut tighteners hurt their job security. When they take cuts to get in line with what others will work for, a free market, then they will have some security. $30 bolt tightener = low security $10 bolt tightener = high security