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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) Well, if Jesse or Al were full time employees of some major network, they might get fired too. But, as they are basically unemployed, what's there to fire them from? I love that observation. We've only been firing guys for statements like this for 20 years. Al Campanis was the first I can think of. And it is interesting that the coverage, IIRC, was he made racially insensitive remarks, not that he *was* a racist. His record was pretty spotless at that point. Some people pointed to the hiring of Tommy Lasorda over a black candidate, but look at Lasorda's record, they done pretty good with that hiring.

When you read or hear someone of good character and intelligence say something you find unfathomable, what do you do? Do you even give it a second thought? The Vick dog fighting thing has me thinking. I found comments by Sanders, Whoopie and others to be so off base, so wrong, I could not image anyone actually saying them. Similar to some of the Mr. KapCleveland2k5 posts I've read through the years. My reflex is always to try and figure out why they believe that. I know they aren't uneducated, amoral, fools, so there must be some underlying logic. So I ask, does anyone even pause and try to understand the other side? I know that asking questions and probing around here usually ends in an argument, but there are other places to research.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 09:10 AM) The point is, sometimes things are subjective. However, if it doesn't fit your agenda or way of thinking, it must be biased.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 12:05 PM) His school doesn't have uniforms. We're torn between a blue shirt and the Kong jersey... blue shirt, have you seen the Sox record?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:50 AM) Also interesting in the article was Toyota paying workers as little as $12 an hour in their new plants.... Now we are even getting down into Wal-Mart wage territory... I wonder where they will find employees willing to work for those wages?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) Well, it's that and your ass. But really, you could throw your kid a blue shirt even if he/she is a Sox fan. That way the kid won't stick out like a sore thumb if he/she really doesn't wish to wear a Cubs shirt. Another great suggestion

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) I find this perspective intriguing... Thank you for posting that, I would have missed it and it perfectly sums up my feelings.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:34 AM) Because Nike's racist. Speaking of racist, what is the racial diversity of your tin foil hat organization? What track record of promoting minorities does your organization have? Jesse Jackson is so going to be on your ass with a boycott. I'm starting the plastic wrap society

His sons?! I'm here wishing they put a for sale sign up. There is no evidence that they would be any better. Sell and enjoy the fruits of dad's labor.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:26 AM) I don't think the comparison's very good but I agree with the sentiment. It isn't a good analogy, but I can't think of an area that we are so quick to label, based on one instance. We don't slap on positive labels for one thing.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 09:01 AM) I had no idea where to put this, so here it is. Nike has designed and produced a shoe model specifically for Native Americans, and will ONLY distribute them to native tribal groups and agencies. Profits will go into health care for American Indian tribes, reservations and individuals. Just thought it was worth pointing out - sometimes corporations do good. I like it. I just wodner why they won't offer it off the reservation. Other people may have wide, tall feet as well.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 11:05 AM) Let him decide. If he wants to fit in and have a day out of the school uniform, get a cheap Cub t-shirt and remember that it's not war or religion, it's a game. If he doesn't want to wear a Cub shirt, send him to school in his regular school clothes and, if questioned, have him tell them he's a Sox fan and that he doesn't want to wear Cub stuff. I personally think sending him in Sox stuff would be a jerk move. He's going to want to cheer with the other 8-year olds, not explain why the Sox don't really suck as bad as the record would seem. I think a Sox jersey would be a decent second choice. The jerk move would be a jersey.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 08:29 AM) You want Donald Regan to run for the GOP nomination? He does have an impressive resume, but he died in 2003.

Here is a thought, and it will be very difficult to phrase this, so bear with me. I think racist is one of the worst labels we can slap on someone and should be used only in the worst cases. I want to see a pattern of this behavior, a preponderance of evidence, before labeling them a racist. This crap where one strike and your labeled and tossed aside is b.s. and does not accurately reflect the complexities of being human. It's like anointing someone a saint for attending Church once.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 09:34 AM) Ok, a HUGE Walmart just opened in Lockport. Starting pay is more like $10 per hour, and there are benefits available, for all. But hey, $6 per hour makes them seem $4 more evil that they really are. As for their 'blackmail' business practices, when you buy 80-90% of a companies entire production, you have leverage. It is up to the seller to find new customers so as not to put themselves into that position. I know 80% of business usually comes from 20% of your customers 9it is very true in my business), but when 80% of your business comes from 1 customer, you are just inviting future heartache.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 08:14 AM) Because most conservatives will allow the market to take care of itself without government interference. A first in Soxtalk history, a ten sentence question answered in two sentences.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 07:21 AM) I still all comes down to personal preference though, doesn't it? What happens in the breast augmentation surgery room stays in the breast augmentation surgery room. Unless you are a stripper whose employer paid for the surgery.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 07:43 AM) Sweet, so that means you guys are all anti-ACLU now right? No. they can hide behind the ACLU typically defends Americans, not foreign nationals I like my position the best. Very comfortable and consistent. We have a greast system, we just need to trust it to work. And it works best when everyone has a "dream team" of lawyers.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 07:21 AM) Well early news in is that there has been a tentative agreement reached in the GM strike. One more thing I wanted to share is that I have seen the justification of Toyota and the like as they build cars in America, and pay American workers. Finally I found some numbers. If you include all compensation that both employees receive (wages, health care, pension, stock plans etc) the average Toyota worker makes $45 an hour. The average GM worker makes $73 an hour, when everything is factored in. I have asked before, and I will ask again, why is there no movement of people against Toyota, the way that there is against Wal-Mart. Really we are talking about the exact same business model and techniques. They both look for markets where they can under cut price and wages. They both are permanently removing higher paying jobs from the US. As a matter of a fact, looking at the numbers we should be more outraged at Toyota, because they are taking upper-middle class jobs (well heck upper class jobs according to some of the Dems) and replacing them with jobs that pay on average, with benefits included, about $60,000 LESS than the jobs they are offering. Where are the Stop Toyota campaigns? Where are the exposes on CNN? Where are the union protests? Why are they striking GM, when they should be striking Toyota? Seriously, I'd love to hear an explanation of why Toyota is immune. I would guess that the liberals would say Toyota is paying a living wage over the poverty line, while WalMart is not. Why aren't conservatives outraged?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 07:02 AM) This is a hard one - from a personal standpoint, I pass my condolences on. From a business standpoint, good riddance, get the hell out, and let's hope that there's some business sense that comes to Chicago on running a real hockey team. We should add special condolences to the Sutter family. I wonder if Pulford got his head out of Bill's ass before he passed away? (is it too soon?)

Linky

I admire his longevity and dedication to the Blackhawks. RIP Bill.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 26, 2007 -> 06:38 AM) I didn't read the article, but I did look at the pictures provided. Find that kind of honesty about Playboy subscribers. But anyways, from what I could tell from the picture provided, the "not perfect boob" means "don't stand with your arms away from your sides". Whereas the "perfect boob" means "stand in a way so that you are pressing them together". Is that right? I mean, that's really the big difference in those two pictures. Look at the top, if it is fuller, more rounded, not as good* as a little less there, more of a tear drop. But with boobs, if you've seen one, you've seen them both . . . *According to the author of the study.

btw, I just looked in the mirror, perfect boobs

It is so tough to have a decent dialog when every word is parsed, every phrase examined, to see if it is 100% racism free. When we can look at the content of a man's soul and not the words he may unfortunately choose, we may have progress.