Texsox

ZZZzzzzing when oZZZZie was leaving.

I have a small Viz monitor / TV that has performed very well. I also like my Sony. But I'm not too critical about TVs, it just isn't that important.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) Hooker Finder. Always trying to expand your business?

Ozzie could do us one more favor, please take Walker with you . . .

It really seemed like Ozzie was managing to be fired.

He managed this season like he wanted to leave. I have a lot of great Oz memories from his days as a player and as a manager. Calling for Bobby is etched in my mind.

And when he is done, I am switching to Cowboy talk all day all night until he runs out of steam. Not wanting to hear the drama, and no family tweets.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) The best one: cst_Cowleycst_Cowley Oz on no deal, "Things will have to change. My wife will have to shop less, I will have to drink less, Oney will have to get a job ... " I know I am in the minority but I love reading Cowley's tweets more often than not.

Most excellent. Say hello to Fraiser for me.

But we're amateurs, Kenny is paid to know better.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) Fair enough. If Cooper really believes 1) he has a legit chance to manage the Sox or another team or 2) that he should go with Ozzie, then it's probably best to start over, especially if they don't keep Buehrle. And it's not like Mark needs a lot of time with Cooper, anyway. As far as the NEW pitching coach having a bad situation, it's not like he's behind the 8 ball either. Nobody would blame a new pitching coach for Peavy putting up similar numbers to 2011, they would just accept that he lost his stuff and command with the surgery and nothing a pitching coach could do will fix something that's broken. If they're still here, getting 4 or below ERA's out of Floyd and Danks would be acceptable. The main issues for the new coach will be Stewart, Sale (if he's being converted to a starter), Humber (once again, nobody EXPECTS him to post a sub-4.00 ERA again....or at least MOST don't) and maintenance with Santos to make sure he doesn't regress. Obviously, Cooper's yet to find the magic "flip/switch" to get more consistency out of Stewart. Outside of beating up the Twins' AAA roster, he hasn't done much to bolster confidence in him as a rotation member going forward. Which leaves Sale and Santos. If they slip up, he might be blamed. But there are lots of baseball people who aren't convinced that Chris will make it as a starter long-term. And if Santos fails, he'll be called a "one hit wonder" like Takatsu who the league figured out. Although obviously Sergio has an elite slider and a plus fastball to go with it. Following the guy who walked on water and whom fans patented the phrase "Coop will fix 'em" will not be easy. Anything bad will be their fault, anything good will be left over from Coop. Plus, the new manager and/or GM will be blamed for Cooper leaving.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) Fair enough. If Cooper really believes 1) he has a legit chance to manage the Sox or another team or 2) that he should go with Ozzie, then it's probably best to start over, especially if they don't keep Buehrle. And it's not like Mark needs a lot of time with Cooper, anyway. As far as the NEW pitching coach having a bad situation, it's not like he's behind the 8 ball either. Nobody would blame a new pitching coach for Peavy putting up similar numbers to 2011, they would just accept that he lost his stuff and command with the surgery and nothing a pitching coach could do will fix something that's broken. If they're still here, getting 4 or below ERA's out of Floyd and Danks would be acceptable. The main issues for the new coach will be Stewart, Sale (if he's being converted to a starter), Humber (once again, nobody EXPECTS him to post a sub-4.00 ERA again....or at least MOST don't) and maintenance with Santos to make sure he doesn't regress. Obviously, Cooper's yet to find the magic "flip/switch" to get more consistency out of Stewart. Outside of beating up the Twins' AAA roster, he hasn't done much to bolster confidence in him as a rotation member going forward. Which leaves Sale and Santos. If they slip up, he might be blamed. But there are lots of baseball people who aren't convinced that Chris will make it as a starter long-term. And if Santos fails, he'll be called a "one hit wonder" like Takatsu who the league figured out. Although obviously Sergio has an elite slider and a plus fastball to go with it. Following the guy who walked on water and whom fans patented the phrase "Coop will fix 'em" will not be easy. Anything bad will be their fault, anything good will be left over from Coop. Plus, the new manager and/or GM will be blamed for Cooper leaving.

I like my Gas Buddy ap, but how about Beer Buddy? Users report beer prices around town.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) TEX, are you legitimately arguing these points or you really just want to debate with Balta and everyone who's been trying to wear down DickAllen on the Walker question just as an intellectual exercise? Jose Contreras won 17 games in a row but he lost to Paul Byrd. Of course, that had nothing to do with our offense. And I know that was Dick's point, but do you have an even more implausible one? We've been wondering for years and years why Walker is still around. I am trying to remember a player complaining about him. I don't know why he's still around, but I am fairly convinced that Ozzie / Walker / Kenny are not 100% or even 50% to blame for this season. Players are. I think there needs to be a shake up. I'd see if the Marlins would offer a face saving player in trade and ship Ozzie out. I'd allow K-Dubya to hire a new manager, I would let the new manager interview and hire his coaches. If he totally cleans house, his pitching coach will be in about the worse situation possible, while his new hitting coach will have the easiest. I really think he should keep Coop, but I believe that should be his choice. I also think the team should have allowed Coop to interview with other teams for a promotion.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:40 PM) Seriously, if you were the owner of the White Sox, and concerned with the franchise going forward, why would you take YET ANOTHER chance that Walker can turn around Beckham, Rios and Dunn? Don't you have to first find out if another coach can get something out of them before you totally write off the equivalent of a $100 million investment? Let's put it another way. You have just paid an expensive KAPLAN SAT/ACT tutor to increase your child's score and they've actually regressed in the two exams since their original score of 27. The second exam and third exam showed results of 25 and then 26. You heard another student (this is the Adam Dunn of the analogy) who was in all Honors/AP classes and had a 3.75 GPA actually got a 23 after working for two months with the same tutor. Would you keep paying that tutor your hard-earned money or try another approach? That would depend on who set the curriculum. If I hired the tutor and requested they do X, then I would change strategy in a hurry. I'd make a new decision based on the new strategy. Especially if another kid, much like mine, said how well the tutor helped him. And I would have fired Walker about three off seasons ago.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:37 PM) And if Walker and Guillen are replaced and they turn it around...clearly they deserve none of the blame. I think you could place some of the blame on Walker. Usually I would say I'd be interested in what the player claims, but now I'm not too certain. If Ozzie is gone, all sorts of blame will be heaped on him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) You know who will fix them? Greg Walker, right? eh? eh? But *if* they do turn it around, and then say it was Walker, we can dismiss it

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:41 PM) If you look at how things were under Doug Collins...or for the Wizards when Jordan was around...the coach really looks key there. Jordan as a player? IIRC there was a lot of tension.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) It's not special to most people because you EXPECT a player to say nice things about his coaches, especially a classy guy like Konerko. If Walker were the consensus worst coach in professional sports, you'd still get the occasional fluff piece from a player. QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) Good point. So we can dismiss what players say about the coaches, I'm all for that. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) If they ALL came out in support of him, it'd be a different story. I think you act purposely obtuse sometimes. Scratch that. I'm sure of it. And I'll agree with you again. If all that played for him came out, that would be a different thing. Hell, if 3/4 came out, I'd probably accept that. How about you? Three-fourth enough?

Not so much big, more like abstruse, recondite, or even inscrutable.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:46 PM) You get your real knowledge from the opinions of talk radio hosts and call ins, and message board posts. And interview request by the Yankees, don't forget how important the Yankees wanting to talk to you is.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 03:44 PM) Um, what? The hypothetical was you're the boss and can pick only one. We'll that is kind of silly, don't you agree? It isn't even close to a realistic situation.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) It's not special to most people because you EXPECT a player to say nice things about his coaches, especially a classy guy like Konerko. If Walker were the consensus worst coach in professional sports, you'd still get the occasional fluff piece from a player. Good point. So we can dismiss what players say about the coaches, I'm all for that.

yeah, they did get lucky. The past thirty years have been pretty solid for investments.

Funny a current player's endorsement isn't valued as much as a job interview with another team. /ducking