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QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 02:47 PM) Well, it's no revelation at this point, and I don't mean to state the obvious...but Lincoln is portrayed as this great friend to the African American people...whereas he was simply much more concerned about keeping the Union together. He didn't want slavery spreading throughout all the new territories, but he didn't really have an issue with slavery continuing in the south for the forseeable future. The Emancipation Proclamation was certainly not issued because Lincoln was concerned about freeing the slaves, either...he was just tapping another available resource to him. This is not to say that Lincoln believed in slavery or the Southern way of life, but to say that he was some great advocate for the slaves simply because it was morally unacceptable is to not exactly be clear. Again, maybe it's a bit of an issue of the age of the learning audience, as you pointed out. Lincoln had spoke out against slavery years before he became president. It is true that he was willing to allow slavery to remain in the south, but he was against any additional slave states being added to the union. I would not go so far as to say he didn't have an issue with it. I believe it would be more accurate to say that stopping the spread was probably the practical limit to what could have been done at the time. Most people incorrectly assume that the Emancipation Proclamation freed all slaves. Actually slaves that were living in the north were not freed, only in the Confederate States. And yes it was much of a war tactic as a moral issue. It also was brilliant in that it effectively stopped any European country from coming to the help of the Confederacy. I've read some interesting papers that theorize that France or Spain may have come to the aid of the southern states. That would have been a game changer. What is interesting to me was a debate at the time whether slavery was more a legal or moral issue.

It wasn't like race relations were better in 1865 than 1965. The whole storyline of whites were fighting to free the slaves is kind of over dramatized. It wasn't like there were jobs or great opportunitities for blacks after the war. My students do find it strange that black men received sufferage before white women.

Actually sailors knew the world wasn't flat, they had sailed away from the coast enough to know that. What they did not know was how big it was. The reason for the near mutiny was they were in danger of running out of fresh water and food if the voyage took too long. They were at the point where they had enough food and water for return trip. Columbus was asking for just one more day for three or four days when they began spotting signs of land.

BTW Lies my Teacher Told Me is a decent history book.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) According to many of the History Channel specials I've seen, Lee owned slaves, but he was torn at the onset of the war on which side to fight. I can't recall the reason that he might have wanted to fight on the North (perhaps it was his history at West Point?), but there was something. Lee had taken an oath to defend the country against all enemies. He had a hard time splitting those loyalties. He was also Lincoln's first choice to lead the Union forces. Another factor was he fought with many of the Union leaders in Mexico.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 07:33 AM) You don't have to say f*** a lot to be funny. Will Robin bring in an inflata-mate and stuff bats into the openings? That's the sort of slumpbusters this team needs.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 02:46 AM) Robin did say none of his daughters tweet so already an upgrade in that department. I'll bet they do and he's not allowed to follow lol

The quickest path back to the playoffs is retooling, it is also the most reasonable giving the contract situations. Ozzie, even with his WS wins and all the experience that the folks in Florida love, couldn't get this team into the playoffs. An approach 180 from his would seem like the best approach. Three years is also about the time some flexibility in contracts will happen and the team could either be doing well or able to rebuild, not just retool. I am liking the move. Robin is not trying to take the limelight away from the players which I hope means he will not be taking the responsibility away from the players. It isn't like his leadership and managing potential has not been noticed before. He's had zero time actually doing the part of the job that everyone but Greg believes is the most important, managing players instead of the media. I'm looking forward to his crazy mistakes in spring training and how he does when they start playing for reals.

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:14 PM) Would this actually work and could they make enough revenue to put out a team with a payroll of, say, $100 million? There's no gravity in baseball . . .

Saying the Sox shouldn't worry about the Cubs is like telling Pepsi not to worry about Coke. After the hardcore baseball fans you have the folks that go to a game or two a year. There are lots of them. The club is in a battle to sell tickets, advertising, and TV ratings. Their biggest competitor makes a bold move, advantage competitor.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 12, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) Anyone watch last night's debate? Caught parts of it. Man is Perry terrible, that guy is just going to continue plummeting. While I think Herman Cain is completely out of his league, I wonder if his 9-9-9 stuff might keep him in the race for a while. Romney has really solidifed himself as the guy to beat, again. I don't see anyone in this field having much of a chance to beat him, unless a bunch of people drop out and the far-right can prop up one, ultra-conservative candidate against him. Perry needs to get away from debates and get on the stump, that is where he really shines. Plus as soon as the TV ads start in the primary states, he'll rebound.

Seems as if the Braves called him. I believe in another thread it was supposed that Walker would never even have another interview.

If you can't make it in Chicago, how could it make it anywhere else? It's not like he failed in Boston. If you failed in Boston or New York, there is still a chance for you to make it in Chicago. But once you fail in Chicago, your career is pretty much over.

Hell. 10th Period is Hell

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 11, 2011 -> 04:20 PM) I wish I could laugh

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-at...l-street-dough/ So Republicans love Obama also?

You think?

Walk Off Grand Slam

We can't really make any changes, there is too much profit involved in keeping the messed up system. This county got lucky and picked up minimum security prisoners. But for cash strapped counties hoping to fill their cells, tougher illegal immigration enforcement, and keeping the current laws may be their only hope. http://www.themonitor.com/articles/raymond...t-arriving.html http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=130833741 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=131191523

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 9, 2011 -> 06:51 PM) I would be glad i it was all Ozzie because he certainly sucked at it. Are you suggesting then if it was Coop, he sucked at it?

My first four are still playing. Tex = STL > Mil > Tigers

And rain is finally falling around town and around Texas.

And, if you are going to take another run with the same 25 man roster, wouldn't you go with a new manager that is 180 degrees from the last? We wanted a guy that will manage more from the book and less from his gut, I am going to see how he manages before passing judgement.

I am finding it amusing that folks in Florida are so excited that Ozzie is their new manager. World Series win, .500+ winning percentage, he's their salvation. We've run him out of town. And who did many of us here want? Francona. World Series winner, glitzy winning percentage that Boston is running out of town. Seems like fans want guys that recently had epic failures as their new manager. Because a "new team will fix 'em"™ Trademark™ used by permission of Don Cooper, all rights reserved. I could go out on a limb right now and say there is no way the Sox will win another WS title with Don Cooper as their pitching coach. I think Don's a hell of a coach and if assistants made the HoF more regularly, he should probably be there. But it's so damn easy to say it won't work because only one team wins the WS.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Oct 8, 2011 -> 03:35 PM) It would be more accurate to say we value HIS life so little that we will kill him. And he valued that guy's life so little he almost murdered him. That is my point. When we put values on lives, that somehow one person's life is worth more than another, it opens up something I'd rather not. If we stay consistent, that all lives have value, there is no ambiguity. Kill a soldier during war and if you get caught we'll put you in a nice POW camp until the end of the war then let you go. You may only sit in the POW camp for weeks if it's at the end of the war. Kill a salesperson and you may get life in prison, kill a cop, get executed. Kill a young black guy in a drive by and you may get 30 years.