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You are ignoring the fact that most illegals that are caught are working for more than minimum wage, they were working for the prevailing wages. Convenience stores that get robbed repeatedly should be put out of business, they obviously have no clue how to run a business. Just having illegals on the payroll should not be the criteria, prosecution should hinge on "knowingly" which will be very expensive to prove. Yes, we allow in accountants, doctors, and all sorts of professionals, but dammit, their gardeners and nannies better be US citizens.

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Yes, they are sol on the money but we also do not then arrest the owner for counterfeiting or the clerk for engaging in counterfeiting activities. The difference is "knowingly hiring". Of course there are some companies that are knowingly hiring illegals, but there are many thousands more that are not knowingly hiring them. The workers arrive with driver's licenses and social security cards. Some are fake, some are borrowed. That is the majority of the workers. Are we going to shut down a farm because they were fooled by a counterfeit birth certificate? Shut down a Title company because a guy in the mail room used someone else's driver's license and social security card? Once we start litigating "knowingly" we're going to be spending a lot of time and money. Again, the reason this has gotten huge again, even after that great GOP President Reagan granted amnesty, is money. For the government, it is less low income workers collecting benefits, for the companies, it is a ready pool or workers willing to work jobs that Americans do not want to work. Imagine at a commencement address the speaker saying, we've educated you for 12 years, kid here's your diploma now follow the crops like nomads, living in shacks and picking crops as they come into season. Grab that dish towel and get into that kitchen and wash some dishes. Grab the handle of that rake and start landscaping that legal immigrant's home. Grab a knife and start processing carcasses in that slaughterhouse. Immigrants sowed the tobacco fields of Jamestown, creating the first boomtown in America. Immigrants planted, tended, and picked cotton in the south, creating a second boomtown in our history. Immigrants built the Erie Canal, linking the great lakes with New York, Immigrants died by the thousands building the transcontinental railroad. Immigrants have fought our wars and built our skylines. We have taught for generations the immigrant story through the eyes of Europeans who arrived through New York. Perhaps if generations of kids learned our immigration heritage by studying the Asians that arrived through San Francisco or the Hispanics that walked here or who became Americans when the border suddenly moved through war or treaty we would have a better collective memory of the American story.

I keep thinking this thread was a joke.

My biggest concerns about the harsher penalties for companies. You don't prosecute a retail store for accepting a counterfeit bill, so prosecuting a company for accepting a counterfeit social security card or birth certificate seems wrong also. Putting innocent people out of work because the guy in the mail room and six guys on the factory floor turned out to be illegal doesn't seem right. Illegals pay thousands of dollars to arrive here to work. There is money to be made getting them the documents to get these jobs. The enforcement. It's easy to target a huge processing plant like Swift, but how do you investigate the tens of thousands of small companies that hire less than 10 employees? We need to have a guest worker program, tied to jobs, where businesses can hire immigrants for low paying jobs. Currently it is too expensive to hire immigrants legally for entry level jobs. So we have a system where it makes sense for an accountant from India, a doctor from the Philippians, or an Italian tool and die maker to immigrate here and take a job paying $$$$ but they have to hire an American to take care of their landscaping and be their nanny.

From purely an economic standpoint, what is the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

When I was looking, what I liked was getting down quickly to WIFM as in What's In It For Me? What will I *really* be doing, what is your program. I hated wading through all the hype about what a great company you are.

Pave over the field, toss on some astroturf and save money. Use that money to shore up the bullpen.

So what is a reasonable profit for the team? Break even? $10 mil? $50 mil? We never really know how the team has done.

The business of business is making money, not winning championships. So if you truly want to cheer for the business side, cheer for profits, not wins. It really would have sucked to find out the 2005 team lost money and I believe we all would be happier with a big profit and a second place finish than losing money. While I understand the business side, I'm not going to care too much until they start reporting the team's results on the business page. I really can't care because a full statement is never given to the fans. So we're only guessing at what resources the team has. We can sit here and say that the contract to X is keeping the team from signing Y, but it is only a guess. It may be right, but we really do not know. Maybe the team could afford a $120M payroll this year, we have no objective proof. Plus, going with the theory that the business of baseball is as important to the owners as results on the field, then maybe my exaggeration of second place and making money is better than winning and making a whole lot less is valid.

getting a win after blowing a save or hold, or hell any lead, is kind of b.s. imho

There was the story about Clinton telling a waitress he wanted a quiche. She hit him in the face. Seems he wasn't aware it was pronounced keesh and not quick-e

Unfortunately the education to understand those is costly, especially for the non attorney. My favorite contracts were with an American guy living in Italy who made tooling for us. He insisted that every contract have a plain English preamble that explained what we were trying to accomplish before we turned it over to the attorneys. We never had a problem with his company, but I always wondered what a judge would have said about that preamble. And damn, all this contract talk and I just spent 30 minutes reviewing a lease contract and what we can and can't do. LOL this place jinxed me.

Everyone outside Florida will cheer for Dallas

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The way the Heat put their team together really pisses me off. It will be really easy for me to just not pay any attention to the NBA for many seasons.

You may think that was an evil baseball. Balta would disagree. Finishing that game after 1 am is kind of crazy.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 24, 2011 -> 06:07 PM) Thanks for the advice. All the material will be original. Is there a place where I can get that bolded part written out in legalese? Just a side note, once I understood that "legalese" was actually "precise and exact" I understood it much better. It isn't as much as having a magic language, but having an exact language that eliminates uncertainty (loop holes, and ways out). It helps your attorney (paid or unpaid) if you can tell him the exact protections you want and what the potential disagreements may be. It's the difference between I am doing X and want protection and I am doing X and I want to make certain Y doesn't do this, or this, or this. It's quite beautiful thing, a well written contact can read a beautifully as a sonnet when it does what you want it to do. Miss something and you'd think Steven King became your attorney. Oh yeah, and when you can help your attorney to be more efficient, when you are paying, it costs much less.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) I don't know if that helps NBA players, what do you think? knowing this one was late to the party is kind of cool.

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