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If we look solely at the gamelog which is the simplest measure to use: http://baseball.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?g...ameId=230907104 Batting HR: F Thomas (39, 7th inning off D Baez 2 on, 2 Out); P Konerko (18, 8th inning off D Lee 1 on, 1 Out) RBI: M Ordonez (85), C Lee (98), F Thomas 3 (93), P Konerko 2 (65) S: R Alomar, S Alomar Jr SF: C Lee 2-out RBI: F Thomas Runners left in scoring position, 2 out- R Alomar 1, P Konerko 1, M Ordonez 1 Team LOB: 7 Baserunning CS: M Ordonez (5, 2nd base by C Lee/V Martinez) Can we determine a PTC from this? + Pts: HR: (2*HR) Thomas = 2 Koney = 2 RBI:(1*RBI) Thomas = 3 Koney = 2 Maggs = 1 Lee = 1 2-out RBI: (1*RBI) Thomas = 1 - Pts: all -1 PT RON,2 outs: Koney = -1 CS: Maggs = -1 Thomas should win the hitters PTC 6-3 over Koney. If the SOX get shut out, then you can look at H, & AB. But otherwise, it should be the players driving in runs that get the most weight. Similarly on the PITCHING side: IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA D Wright 5 5 2 2 1 4 2 75-47 5.42 K Wunsch 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 8-6 1.74 S Sullivan 1/3 1 1 1 1 0 0 15-7 6.35 S Schow 2/3 0 0 0 1 1 0 13-4 4.85 D Marte 1 1 0 0 0 3 0 17-10 1.66 T Gordon 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 8-7 3.33 I like ST/(R+1) as the winning PTC measure: (ST = strikes, R = runs scored) Wright = 16 Wunsch = 6 Sullivan = 3.5 Schow = 4 Marte = 10 Gordon = 7 After all hits are only counted as strikes. Now if you want only 1 PTC then for a Pitcher to win he must have a score > 3*(highest hitter) Thomas wins the PTC 18-16 over Wright. Proof: Wright needed just 10 more ST's to win. That would have left him with 6ip, 2r, 57ST's I think that was worthy of the win.

I know. I know. You need an example: SLG = TB (Total Bases) ÷ AB (At Bats) where TB= H + 2B + (2 x 3B) + (3 x HR) OBP = (H+BB+HBP+FC)/(AB+BB+HBP+SF) Since we would double the weight of SLG for PTC the first place to look is ESPN's game log which can be found very quickly after the game in schedule & results. Go straight to HR & RBI's: HR: F Thomas (39, 7th inning off D Baez 2 on, 2 Out); P Konerko (18, 8th inning off D Lee 1 on, 1 Out) RBI: M Ordonez (85), C Lee (98), F Thomas 3 (93), P Konerko 2 (65) Thomas = 4/3 Koney = 6/4 Nah ... forget it. It's too much work.

I'm baaaacccckkkkkkkk! To stir up the pot. Yet again. I was thinking about the scoring .. again. What if we went to a straight system & once again added pitchers? Maybe 2 PTCs: 1 for pitchers & 1 for hitters? Scoring system: Highest OPS that night wins PTC for hitters. Lowest OPS vs that night wins PTC for pitchers. If you don't think OBP should be weighted that high, then how about : PTC ab winner : Highest(2*SLG+OBP). PTC ip winner : Lowest(2*SLG+OBP). Now the big hit like Frank had on Sunday will carry more weight.

Brian Daubach My 2nd time in this series. Who would have thunk it? His numbers vs Radke can't be denied. 1300 OPS in 26 abs.

CARL EVERETT He owns Santana, albeit 3 abs.

FRANK THOMAS Balfour's a newbie. What a name! Balfour. Sounds like something out of Grendel.

Brian Daubach He owns Lohse & Koney sucks vs him so I see Brian getting some action.

1) Who will win the series (CHW/MIN/Split) (2 points)? SOX 2) Will any of the games go extra innings (Y/N) (2 points)? Y 3) How many errors will the Sox make (4 points)? 2 4) How many RBI will Paul Konerko have (4 points)? 5 5) How many homeruns will the Sox hit in the series (5 points)? 7 6) How many relief appearances will the bullpen make (5 points)? 8 7) Which Sox starter will give up the fewest earned runs (4 points)? Colon 8) Will Carlos Lee have at least 4 RBI in the series (Y/N) (2 points)? Y 9) Who will lead the AL Central after the series (2 points)? SOX 10) Will Michael Ryan hit a homerun (Y/N) (2 points)? N TIEBREAKER: Total attendance for the series 115,999

:fyou Bears. Gave up another rushing TD. 24-7 SF That's all I can stomach. Going to work out. Go celebrate the SOX victory. We're still 1/2 gm ahead of the sCrUBs! - Thomas - Konerko Later.

GIBSON is 375# ... THAT's Da Bears R OT. Oh F. Blocked punt. SF gets another red zone opp.

Prediction: Garcia doesn't last 6 wks. He puts himself at risk of injury WAY TOOO OFTEN! 4-4 TEX B10 2-0 KCR T5

URLACHER pulverizes GARCIA! SF on Bears 3! What a tough little s***! He gets up & sneaks his way over the goal-line! 17-7 SF

WHAT A MOMO! Bobby WADE! Fumbles the return. SF on Bears 6. MINN going to the 10th.

TOUCHDOWN! Nice pass from Kordell to Clark! EP good. 10-7 SF SOX WIN 7-3! Gordon pitches a flawless 9th! C'mon ANA & TEX! I want so badly to update the track the race thread!

Gordon on. JM is a MOMO. 7-3 SOX, 1 out T9. Bears on SF 3!

BROWN intecepts GARCIA! Bears on SF 16!

Robbie ab. 1-0. 4-4 ANA @ MIN 9th Riske K's Robbie. 2 LOB. We go to the 9th.

2 on, 2out . J Val draws a walk. Pitching change from CLE. 7-3 SOX b8. Da Bears suck. 3rd punt. 10-0 SF 2nd qtr.

Heart stopped. Bears made a 1st down on a Stewart run. 1 on, 1 out S Alomar ab. Paniagua warming.

That trick wasn't needed! YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOARD .. YES! PK 2 RUN BLAST! Crowd continues to chant "Paully" Wanting that curtain call. They get it. 7-3 SOX!

I can imagine many a Bears fans just switched from FOX to WGN. The ole Harris running for Everett trick. 1 on, 1 out PK ab.

Dave Lee on for CLE (3.13 era) vs Carlos. SF 10-0 over Bears. They just powered their way over the goal line.

1 on, 2 outs vs Marte. Another K for Marte! SF will be in Bears territory with the latest crowd helped flag. HE GAWN! Marte stikes out the side! bot 8. SF on Bears 13.

1 on, 2 outs vs Marte. Another K for Marte! SF will be in Bears territory with the latest crowd helped flag.

Shoop sucks donkey dick! Bears punt .. again. Panthers beat the Jags. 1 on, 1 out vs Marte.