witesoxfan

HSC, I hate to get technical with you, but the facts are right there in front of everybody's face. As GM of the White Sox, KW has a record of 164-160, which is an average of 82-80 in two seasons. He does have a winning record as a major league GM...barely.

This better as hell be a rumor, because it's a bad one at that. We are "trying" to improve right now, so the logical thing to do is bring in players that are good and will help the team do well....not trade away your best goddamn player. Maggs is just now entering the prime of his career....this is a guy that could be a triple crown threat, and I mean that with all seriousness. I wouldn't even take Williams and Jeter for Ordonez....it would take something along the lines of $50 million, Andy Pettitte and Mo Rivera.....I believe Maggs is worth that much to. You don't trade a franchise player....you just don't do that kind of s***. It's against common sense. If you were to trade the franchise player, would that not make you the dumbest piece of s*** in the world?

If anyone is worse than Wavin Wally, then who the f*** hired him? He should get his ass booted out of town right away.

Either that or the fact that one of them could be traded...or two of them. If we did a minor-league swap, I wouldn't mind it so much, as long as we got a good prospect in return.

FYI, Thomas isn't an unconditional free agent, like Jamie Moyer and Jim Thome, where all 30 teams have a shot at signing them. He is the opposite, a conditional free agent, meaning he can sign with any of the other 29 teams, but not the White Sox, because at the moment, he is signed with us. I think I have it right anyways. Anyways, I personally believe you can immediately eliminate teams from the equation, those being the NL teams, KC, Detroit, Cleveland, Seattle, Texas, Anaheim, Oakland, Tampa Bay, Toronto and New York, which leaves, from the way I view it, about 4 teams that he could end up on.....the White Sox, the Orioles, the Red Sox, and maybe, but doubtfully(very doubtfully) the Twins....maybe not so much because they need him, but because they can make us pay for what we did. If Thomas can be a .310 35 120 guy, which he could do, and he did it for the division rival Twins and helped them win back-to-back divisions, it would be a bad thing for the White Sox as an organization. I just hope he comes back and we defer about half of it, personally.

If considering to get Clayton makes you a good GM, then we got the best of them all.

Though Sammy may be a superstar, he is not a winner, and winning is the most important thing in all of sports. If you aren't ever on a winning team, then you are never given the respect you deserve. Who do you hear more about, Joe Carter or Ernie Banks?

One reason his ERA was so high this year would have to be lack of confidence, or you might think that anyways....3.42 in 2001, 3.91 in 2002, but it was up around 4.35 or so a lot of the year and he was getting hit pretty hard. When he gets to rolling though, he is a pretty good pitcher. I think he had an ERA somewhere around 2.00 something in the second half of 2001, which means that if he's a good second half pitcher, than that could come into a big advantage. I think a good adage for Moyer would be "Jamie Moyer is like a fine wine....he gets better with age!":P

The Orioles have shown interest in Thomas and Thomas has shown interest in them...that can only mean one thing in my book, that Thomas will be a member of the Orioles next year, sad as it may be.

Possible occurance... White Sox signing Jamie Moyer?

From Ken Rosenthal.... http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/columns/200211...dbacksmigh.html "Lefthanded pitcher Jamie Moyer could emerge as a central figure in a free-agent tug of war between the Cubs and White Sox. Moyer is the White Sox's No. 1 target, and he also would fit nicely with the Cubs, who lack a veteran lefthanded starter. Another option for the White Sox would be to pursue a trade for Bartolo Colon or Javier Vazquez if the Expos are forced to dump salaries. The Sox, however, are adamant that they won't trade their top young players and compromise their ability to compete in 2004 through '06. Colon would be under the White Sox's control for one season, Vazquez for two . . ." Personally, I would rather get Moyer....even if he is 53 or so, he would still look damn good in a White Sox uniform and could help us beat the Twins stupid little asses out of the division. Colon or Vasquez scare me a little more, mainly because we'd be trading, and KW and trading don't mix very well, unless it is a player like Damaso Marte, where I personally believe he got pretty damn lucky, and at one point in midseason, it looked like we got f***ed again when Damaso was suffering from dead arm. And HSC, I personally believe Mark would be more pleased with this deal than if we got Lidle, and Moyer was getting more...Moyer and he are pitchers that are alike, and if in the future Mark will get a deal more than $10 million....from someone anyways....I hope it's us, but odds are, it won't be. :puke

I'm pretty sure I will like it here....hell, after 3 posts, this being my 4th, this place is already a blast. Everyone from the other board is here plus many others. This is going to be fun around here.

I don't exactly want Sandy to retire....why should he when he is still using the stick pretty well? If he can hit .260 in about 60-75 games with us, that would be fine and dandy for me. Even if his knees are made out of some kind of new plastic or metal or something like that, or if they are fake, they should last atleast 50-65 games. That's 2, maybe 3 games a week, and that is pretty good. That makes both Paul and Johnson available, and if Oakland was actually being truithful about sending Lidle or Lilly our way for MJ....oh jeez, that would be nice....that would actually be a good move by KW, assuming KW is at the helm when that move happens. Then again, he has probably brainwashed Jerry and made him think that all these moves are good or something like that. I may be 15, but I got one thing to say to KW....

The other board was fun for a while, but, if you want me to use some of grandpa's favorite four letter words, it was getting rather f***ing boring. You had a bunch of stat buffs who knew nothing about the game itself....just the career OPS of Jeff Liefer in the 7th inning and beyond bulls***(and you don't have to say BS anymore....goddamn this site is a whole hell of a lot better!). This place rocks! And trust me, I know Borchard isn't going anywhere...or I wish I did. With KW, the dips*** at the helm, anything can happen.

Hey guys, those who posted over at whitesox.com, and those who didn't....it was getting rather boring over there and thanks to control freak, KW, I can't even enjoy the thrill of the offseason. That moron and his horrifically terrible trades and the fact that Joe Borchard and Jon Rauch would probably have to be sacrificed in order to get Bartolo Colon....bugs the crap out of me. This site should allow a little more freedom. That and the fact that I was getting sick and tired of the goddamn censor. You couldn't say suck. That pissed the hell out of me. After 2000 posts and not quite a year on that site, it wears on you a little. Anyways, just letting everyone know that I am checking in.