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Since people seem to be so high on this, let me just ask this - what's the difference between acquiring Castro (or someone similar) next year versus this year? I don't see him being more expensive. I think the Sox will be in a better position to deal prospects at that point with another year of drafting, developing, and acquiring prospects. They'll know for certain whether or not acquiring a catcher is a good idea. I don't see them being competitive this year even if they do acquire Castro without giving up Quintana. So what reason do they have to acquire him? It simply doesn't make sense yet.

FYI, while this weather sucks, we usually get about 5-10 of these kinds of days a year, this cold and all. Frankly, I am surprised if we don't have a couple in the -30 degree air temp with -60 wind chill. Not that I like it, mind you.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) I like your thinking Jake. A team could sell off a young talent, turn around and put that money towards a free agent to fill an immediate hole in an effort to compete in the upcoming season. Small and large market teams alike could really benefit from this. This is generally considered the absolute worst way to build a team.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2014 -> 08:32 AM) I agree. The sox Ha, not sure what happened. Meant to say that I don't believe the Sox are in a position to be trading away young resources like this in any form. They need to be stockpiling those. This is the kind of move you make when you are trying to put the team over the top, not to merely add a piece. Plus, I really don't like how high they'd be buying on Castro either. I just don't think it makes sense.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 6, 2014 -> 08:22 AM) Sucks that the Packers lost, but I think they played a pretty good game. They were right there with a great football team. Biggest problem for the Packers is staying healthy. I look at that 49ers team and they have all of their starters playing that they had in week 1. I am very jealous of that. It was a great game. I honestly feel it lived up to the hype that was given to it. The Packers need a lot of help on D.

QUOTE (Spod=Ratings @ Jan 5, 2014 -> 06:55 PM) It's sad Bears fans only postseason excitement is rooting against packers. Seems like a very Cub thing to do... No, it seems like a very human thing to do. If your team is eliminated, you will find joy in actively rooting against teams you dislike. Due to the fact that it's the oldest rivalry in football, it's very natural that Bears fans will enjoy watching the Packers lose. What's sad is that you are commenting on this as a Packers fan and not commenting on the game itself.

It was warm enough to rain on Friday, got up to 41 degrees. It's -20 right now.

I genuinely do not believe this is a good idea in any of the numerous ways that have been suggested. The Sox

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) Who is keeping them out of the Hall of Fame? Griffey has never looked to be on the roids at all. And I guess Thome did gain a lot of weight from his early baseball cards, he just seemed like a big country boy, never super ripped and muscular. Then why assume Piazza is? Giambi just looks like a big country boy too.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 10:06 PM) The Saints should have went for that 4th and 4. There's like 2 teams in the nfl that should let their defense win games, every other needs to let their offenses do it. Saints defense isn't that bad, but it hit them. Still, they're doing exactly as you say, and now a field goal wins it. Haven't watched much of Foles, but he is calm and cool in the pocket. Doesn't have a lot of arm strength and doesn't throw a good deep ball, but he's good. EDIT: Unless it's 4 and 1 (or 2), and you are absolutely in field goal range or it's absolutely necessary to go for it, I don't ever advocate going for it. EDIT2: Unless it's Madden (WRONG THREAD IDIOT /necessary)

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 09:37 PM) Blame Bud for that. From that era, if he looked like a steroid user and hit like a steroid user, then I would say he was a steroid user. Don't see why he should get the benefit of the doubt. Then I would love to hear your reasoning behind keeping Thome and Griffey out of the Hall of Fame.

Don't want to quote the whole post because, well, long. De Aza's max value is what, a B prospect? What's the difference between a C+ prospect and a B prospect? And then, what is the difference in value between Jordan Danks (or Blake Tekotte or Jared Mitchell or Joe Blow or John Deere) and De Aza as a bench player. Right now, you need to play Viciedo-Eaton-Garcia 140+ games each. That does not leave a lot of time for De Aza to add value. And then what is the difference between said C+ prospect and said B prospect? Basically, that is what is comes down to. On top of that, there are very, very few teams that will actually want Dunn to play full time. Maybe the Royals, maybe the Orioles. No NL team should want him. But, from August, September, and the playoffs, teams will want him as a part time player as a DH to add some power to the lineup. You can extract value out of that. Why not save that money, attempt to compete (which you can do with a good Dunn and can't do with De Aza's place on the depth chart at the moment), and if not, deal the same guys and possibly save some money in the process while getting the same return? Keppinger is the same s***, but I think I'd rather deal him for a bad relief contract. Trade him to the Dodgers for Brandon League with LA making up the difference in price. I think you'll find you can get more value out of that contract that way. If you can't deal him, who are you kicking off the roster? Jake Elmore? I just think your philosophy is going about things to an extreme that no one in baseball would be comfortable with, nor any logical economist. You need to try and utilize your resources in the most efficient way possible, and eating Dunn's salary - likely to be around 16% of the team's total payroll - is not doing that. Get that value out of him before you eat anything.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) My god, is our manager so weak that everyone on our bench must be a coach too? Haha. Still, it doesn't hurt to have guys on the roster/bench that young players can look up to and go to for advice.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 08:50 PM) http://www.mlbgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/...tonHighFive.gif This should be this

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) Not if the other steroid guys are getting denied too Except that he's guilty by association, and I have yet to see any valid association of Piazza with steroid users.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 06:03 PM) Since it's Hall of Fame season, I'm going to vent a pet peeve....misspelling common baseball names... Maddox, Clemons, McGuire, Trammel. Stop it. And if you still write Alexi Ramirez, you need to be punched. It's a good thing Javy Vasquez doesn't pitch here anymore, otherwise he might throw a fastball at you. That is, unless Dayan Viciendo hit it first. Plus AJ Piersinski might step on you if you play 3B like Brett Boon.

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I don't mind Buck on a MLC with a buyout. If guys get hurt, he can be on the roster. If not, he can play in AAA or be on the DL with an "injury," and maybe he's a guy you can say "Look dude, you don't have it anymore, we want you on the coaching staff, please stay with us."

BTW, Frank is down to needing 312 of the "remaining" 442 ballots. His percentage needed is down to 70.5% of remaining ballots.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 06:34 PM) Hoping someone can explain to me how you vote for Player B over Player A. Thanks. G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Player A 2322 10075 8199 1494 2468 495 12 521 1704 32 23 1667 1397 0.301 0.419 0.555 0.974 156 4550 226 87 0 121 168 Player B 2055 8674 7213 1219 2247 514 15 309 1261 49 30 1283 1202 0.312 0.418 0.515 0.933 147 3718 190 89 10 77 113 PA: 5 TIME ALL STAR, 2 MVPS, 9 TOP-10 MVP, 4 SILVER SLUGGERS PB: 7 TIME ALL STAR, 0 MVPS, 2 TOP-10 MVP, 5 SILVER SLUGGERS ^^^^^ This last part makes very little sense, btw. Player A is black. Boom, roasted.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 08:26 PM) If he's healthy I don't think he's going to be doing a lot of watching. He'll hate it and the team will hate it. I predict if he's getting as few at bats that many of you think he'll be getting, he'll retire at all star break IF team is out of the race already. I honestly think you will be wrong on all of this.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 08:45 PM) He would have been nice this year, but I have a feeling Hahn has a bigger plan in mind. I think this too, but I think it's a more long term outlook. Give the guys on the roster a chance this year to help further define roles. Find a better option elsewhere. I like Saltalamacchia and said on here on multiple occasions that I'd give him $40 million, but I have no problem that they didn't and I do think they'll try and get a guy they believe can be a top 10 catcher in the league.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 4, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) If the Sox called around to the other 29 teams and offered to eat all of Adam Dunn's salary in exchange for a quality relief or UT prospect who would not have to be added to the 40-man roster then I have to believe at least someone would make that deal. I'd rather Hahn just get this out of the way and dump the guy. Similar with Keppinger, if you call the other 29 teams and say you'll eat $1M this year and $1M next year and you will take back a non-prospect in return, I have to believe someone makes that deal. Do those 2 things & now there is a lot less pressure to take a less-than-necessary return on a higher quality piece, like DeAza or IMO Gillaspie, who I think has a shot at being kind of a Mark Teahen type of player when he was on the Royals - which is nice so long as you are only playing him the minimum. Why on earth would the White Sox pay Dunn's full salary to trade him? Honestly thats absolutely ridiculous. The most you pay is $10 mill. You'll be able to move him at the deadline. Honestly, you are suggesting eating $25 million so you have extra time to deal Gillaspie (who you're not going to get much for to begin with) and De Aza (who you're going to get more for than Gillaspie, but still not much). Say you get a C+ prospect for Dunn after eating his entire salary and a C- prospect for Keppinger after eating all his salary. Now, do you expect to get anything different from De Aza or Gillaspie respectively? If you deal De Aza without eating salary, you save money and open a roster spot. If you deal Gillaspie, you open a roster spot. If you wait until midseason, you may be able to save anywhere between $2-5 mill with Dunn and possibly $7 million with Keppinger while getting minimal return but, more importantly, saving money).

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 08:07 PM) Oswaldo Jose Guillen Going to clean your mouth out with soap

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) I agree that's his ceiling this year. No way he passes Sale in 2014. However, he will win a Cy Young award in a White Sox uniform down the road. You really are something else