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Did Jon Jay finish that season out that started paired with Alonso?

Middleton was the only other possibility…

Leury from 2017 through 2021. 5.7 fWAR, through 2022, 4.6 fWAR. Moncada 2017 2018 2020 2023=4.3 fWAR Obviously that leaves out Moncada’s two best seasons, but it shouldn’t even be comparable for a former #1 prospect in all of baseball versus a fringey top 10-15 prospect on the Rangers.

https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-2023-opening-day-roster-questions-still-to-answer

Nor Marisnick…

https://www.mlb.com/news/prospects-who-impressed-during-spring-training-2023?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage Notes particulsrly long blurb about Ben Joyce later in the article...

Probably told he wouldn't make the team for OD.

Er.Gonzalez now something like 15 or 16/40.

Coca Colas or Colas Slaw with two run single blowing game wide open...

AAAA players Remillard and Erick Gonzalez homer. Reds' pitcher has actually lowered ERA with three runs surrendered over 2 IP.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/winning-wbc-angels-shohei-ohtani-001214543.html

Romy's gonna have to hit RHP with a 10+ ERA.

Before last year, Leury at least earned his way contract-wise. I really think he gets more rope because none of the outfield candidates earned their way. Keuchel was clearly toast. Same with Keppinger and Ranks after the injuries. You can't make the same argument that a Romy Gonzalez will light the world on fire in his stead. Leury on average has actually out produced Moncada cumulatively in 2017 18 20 and 22 and can play everywhere. And he's going to pick up a lot of steals, which will suddenly be at a premium again. Alberto will do the same thing on the infield.

As long as the regulars hit for power and not like 2022...and not expecting a repeat from Andrus, those players would both be luxuries to carry on the roster for bench power.

Sure, a different uniform and the Sox eating over $10 million? Unfortunately they can't try to trade him unless they give him extensive playing time. Except too much Leury is bad news for the team's record usually. Does maximizing his trade value to recoup $3-4 million come in front of winning?

Just don't get buried in April/May. Sox fans historically wait until midseason to join the bandwagon in terms of attendance.

Except Leury playing so many games was definitely not exactly a good thing. Nor was lacking quality depth or patience behind him. See Lenyn Sosa, for example. Andrus really bailed them out.

Pathetic no radio or tv on the weekend. Just giving up to NCAAB. Heck Ohio State UCONN bigger numbers than Reds lol.

Let Vaughn play everyday. Burger has slightly less value if he has to go through waivers because he's really not a 3B. If Vaughn's not 100% then you can see Sheets...but still prefer him playing everyday because he's such an inconsistent hitter when not receiving regular playing time. He's really streaky even compared to the average MLB hitter.

They will never cut Leury until at least July and most likely next season. Leury takes the back up outfield spot over Hamilton Marisnick and Haseley. Romy needs everyday reps at Charlotte for now until he improves his splits.

He's rangy...certainly not fast or quick. Maybe you can argue slightly above average outcome speed when he gets going...but not fast accelerating. A bit reminiscent of Avi Garcia. Always has had a pretty poor arm and throwing mechanics. Reach means nothing without solid instinctual breaks on the ball and correct routes/reads.

Childish noise? I don’t think any owner in baseball would willingly pay $23-25 million for 2017 2018 2020 2022 levels of production. It’s the same paying Benintendi for 2022 and completely ignoring his three previous seasons. 759 ops and 108 wrc simply not enough for career MLB totals. Compare to Buxton’s level of production even when he misses so many games. 4.3 fWAR or whatever for 3 1/2 seasons (2017-2022, removing super ball 2019 and 202) just isn't good enough when he’s soaking up 1/8th the payroll. If he does perform to 3.1 fWAR projections…at least he’s not actively hurting their playoff hopes. He is sort of close to earning his salary…but nothing close to Jose Ramirez, who earns comparable money.

At least 3. 3.5-4.5 would be much better.

Since when did the Sox care about porous OF defense...?

Well considering he will miss at least half the season and there's only one closer in Clase on the entire list... "The White Sox … looked, back in 2020-21, like they were building a young core capable of competing for years to come. A .500, second-place finish in 2022 wasn’t exactly a disaster, but first-time manager Pedro Grifol enters a situation that’s suddenly full of questions. Can the offense thrive without José Abreu? Will Eloy Jiménez ever stay healthy? Did they really give five years to Andrew Benintendi? Is Oscar Colas ready to handle right field every day? Which version of Yoán Moncada will they get? (All of which pale, of course, in comparison to supporting Liam Hendriks as he battles lymphoma.) But beyond all that, there’s a question about the window here. Lucas Giolito and Yasmani Grandal are entering the final years of their contracts. Tim Anderson, Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Hendriks have club options for 2024. The farm system isn’t a strength. If not now, when? The core is young enough that it’s not exactly 2023-or-never, but this might be the last ride for this particular group." https://www.mlb.com/news/ranking-2023-team-tiers?partnerId=zh-20230324-861173-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20230324-861173-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=nnxPEg0y%2B%2Bbjp4cMhG1asGFTJKvZsYAsQRUjNfiUi%2B5ErALKeH7EVQQyInOlEUv8&bt_ts=1679665412943