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I think I preferred Bill Melton and Connor McKnight. They're really sitting there saying “the money’s in the bank?” Apparently Colome is the closer...they weren’t clear...if they were saying he was a closer or will be again. “Roach should be familiar to Sox fans who actually watched the one game he got rocked in the majors.” LoL.

Is that you, L. Wayne Huizenga? At least he had Waste Management, because there’s always poop.

Chicago White Sox was the main one...but he was just being overly optimistic, admittedly, not based on anything “insidery.” Everyone else (twitterverse) was pretty much just like typical Hahn, saying a lot but not really anything upon further reflection.

Omar Narvaez is hitting cleanup for the M’s today. Allen Craig is starting for SD, thought he was out of baseball. No Machado/Tatis, at least in the starting lineup.

SD does draw quite a bit better, but they also have much much nicer April/May/September weather. It gets a bit cold near the ocean at night with that marine layer, but it’s always perfectly comfortable with a light jacket. And those fans lost their FB team, so it’s natural to feel some sympathy as the fanbase has been in the same hell as ours. Heck, we even took Jake Peavy away from them.

Confirmed, got it to come up on my iPad just now...even if you just subscribe to At-Bat or GameDay Audio. Still trying to decide if I want to cancel MLB.tv subscription, but will undoubtedly get pulled back for Jimenez. PS: At least the Hawkeyes are having an unexpected season, that takes some of the current Sox pain away. Every game comes down to the wire. Bohannon’s been unreal, and Wieskamp really reminds me of Haluska with even more promise. We lose Tyler Cook (surely doesn’t have an NBA mid-range game to go pro) but get back Nunge, Pemsl and add Patrick McCaffrey and PG Joe Touissant out of Brooklyn. Takes the sting of losing DJ Carton from my high school to tOSU.

We’re going to have this debate a TON this year, what it really means to be a White Sox fan...and how one should comport themselves “in a dignified manner” so as not to offend those in the hallowed halls of the front office who are just as likely to be out golfing on their seven figure salaries.

It’s hilarious that the players in camp other than our young prospects all represent other, much better players on other teams. Preston instead of Kyle. All of our veterans but no Machado. Castillo/McCann instead of Narvaez/Smith. Trayce instead of Klay (oops, wrong sport.) At least they weren’t quite dumb enough to bring back Shields, but they still managed to replace him at roughly the same high cost, somehow. Ervin Santana a decade too late.

I think you will see the answer to paragraph 3...in people tuning out altogether, casually following and waiting for actual results. Some will be like PTAC about this, but most are going to naturally fall into the Doubting Thomas category because the front office has 100% earned that level of distrust.

Unless we prefer to go back to the “it was KW all the time pulling the strings behind the scenes” take on things?

Looked at this and was optimistically reading Joc Pederson down at the bottom, lol...then remembered we were the White Sox and looked at Turner on the pitching chart and expected Jacob’s return.

And the Marlins got their two World Series titles in a span of 6 years, not 116 or whatever (yes, I know it was 88.)

The irony here is Span actually hasn’t been that bad the last three seasons...I think it was around a 740-750 ops. Especially compared to guys like Jay and Guyer. Of course, then you step back for a second and realize how pathetic hoping and praying for 2fWAR performances out of 34 year old veterans is...it’s another version of 2013-16 all over again (just with slightly lesser names than Shark, Frazier, Cabrera, Dunn, Robertson and LaRoche.) Keppinger-esque...or Bonifacio level.

The Padres were 66-96, 25 games back of LA...13 years and counting since last playoff appearance. And a lot more teams between them and 1st place in their division.

You forgot Colome and Guyer...

Steve Carell, Jason Sudeikis or Bill Hader....although Hahn might prefer Bateman or Christian Bale, lol.

2 p.m. Dodgers vs. Sox in Glendale Rich Hill vs. Donn Papa Roach MLB.com for video feed, WGN 720 AM Athletics at Hohokam in Mesa Jordan Guerrero vs. Chris Large Mouth Bassitt (or Bassitt Hound) No Sox radio or t.v. , just visiting radio feed

https://www.mlb.com/news/2019-mlb-trade-candidates Abreu already #1 on the most likely to be traded list...

We had a revenue generating machine for five years after the World Series. We rewarded fans by following up with an epic collapse, completely wet the bed in 2007/09...came up short in 2010 as well. 2008 was great (minus CQ breaking his hamate and blowing MVP) and in some ways almost as gratifying at the end there winning those three games, kicking off the Twins, etc. Then we had the 2011 Adam Dunn historic collapse and Ozzie abandoning the organization. Fact is, we were able to charge among the highest ticket prices, concession and parking prices in the big leagues until the 2013 season. It has never been about spending per se, it has always been about allocating money efficiently and their risk-averse draft approach (investing money instead into 30 something veterans on the MLB payroll instead of high school talent), Latin America (especially failing in Venezuela and the DR), lack of results in the Pacific Rim, resistance to advanced analytics until universally-adopted, lack of investment in scouting and player development. They did just a couple of things extremely well...pitching, and keeping their players healthy. And neither of those are even holding up in recent years...especially the last two seasons. All we have left to sell fans...is the promise of Jimenez, Cease, Robert and Madrigal.

This is probably one good reason the “friends and family” approach has never been attempted in this way. The repercussions of it backfiring. So fans are rightfully wondering how they were willing to guarantee $250 million but not the extra $50 million they already wasted in veterans for this year’s roster, especially the $13 million for Alonso and Jay. Missing on both whales is one thing. Its this wasting of time and resources on players that have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the next White Sox playoff roster that has everyone seeing RED. It’s simply a combination of stopgaps and castoffs...we’re like The Island Of Misfit Toys. And yet we gave up on Narvaez with four years of control, are going with Nova/Santana over young pitchers who could still make it (at least as relievers)...forcing Palka into RF where he doesn’t belong, etc. None of it makes any logical sense now. Or subjecting fans to another year of Engel and now Jay when not even the woebegone Royals wanted him anymore. How could you expect any but the most lenient fans to give them a free pass with all the information that’s coming out?

I think it’s now closer to $50 million...

Southsider2k5 might want to hold off on his blasting the fanbase canned speech...because if this ownership group can’t even out-execute the Padres, there’s no reason to believe the pieces to realistically compete with the Astros, Red Sox, Yankees and even Indians will ever be there. It will be the same chicken and egg argument...they expect fans to show loyalty first before they’re willing to spend. It’s just completely backwards, compared to how everyone but the smallest market teams operate. And those organizations like the Pirates (shifting/pitch framing), A’s and Rays (starting relievers, backwards approach to get early leads) are at least trying to innovate their way through revenue generation challenges.

Couldn’t they at least talk about Jimenez, Cease, Robert or Madrigal...? You’re welcome to start a “positive/optimistic” thread and interact with the sum total of about 4-5 posters who also must be lifelong Bulls’ fans.

A 713 cumulative ops for the last three years would argue otherwise.

Surreal to see Hermie, Ozzie, Leyland, LaRussa....as soon as I saw Joe Brinkman, Hawk’s voice came immediately into my head.