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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 10:50 AM) Wait, weren't you the one who was just upset about people picking on you? It's different if I KNOW the person and we joke around with each other and know each other's posting tendencies... Now, if someone wants to bring my personal life into this and make judgments without even knowing me at all, that's a completely different matter altogether. I'll just put it this way, I've invited Greg to go to a Royals game before when I was in KC. He is 100% aware of when I am joking about something, and I wouldn't care if he said the same thing about me.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 02:58 PM) Are we not allowed to give out multi-year deals? I'd like to lock up one of Morales/Pence/Choo to about a 3 year deal. Signing two (would have to Morales + another) might be a stretch, but we'll have the money. Will be interesting to see how the market goes. I'd like to try our best to keep him in the OF as long as possible. Moving to 1B is always an option, but moving back to OF from 1B is not something you see go well very often. He's bad, but he's not unplayable in the OF at this point. I'd feel more comfortable with him at 1B if we had more certainty with his bat; we don't. You don't want to give up on Dayan, but you don't want a 1B that can't hit. I'd much rather have a bad LF than a bad 1B. What's the average AL OPS for LF vs. 1B this year? Last year, he was a league average LF, it was in the 725-735 range.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 02:20 PM) If it were a consideration, they wouldn't have waited until July 5 to recall him. They would have done it weeks ago. Back in May, GM Rick Hahn said that Phegley "is showing himself capable of potentially being an impact catcher at the Major League level." In addition to a career-best .316/.368/.597 triple slash over 258 plate appearances, Phegley has mashed 15 home runs for Triple-A Charlotte.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 02:20 PM) If it were a consideration, they wouldn't have waited until July 5 to recall him. They would have done it weeks ago. Back in May, GM Rick Hahn said that Phegley "is showing himself capable of potentially being an impact catcher at the Major League level." In addition to a career-best .316/.368/.597 triple slash over 258 plate appearances, Phegley has mashed 15 home runs for Triple-A Charlotte.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) Damn son you didn't give me a chance. Just in case you aren't aware, you usually give the guy who started the last thread if the Sox won a chance to start the new thread. If the Sox lose it's open season. I figured I still had a few hours to do it. But its cool it's yours now. You preserved my 3-0 record and bring home a winner Joxer ! Any line-up with Tekotte is doomed anyway...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 01:27 PM) He was only there for 5 years, and 4 out of the 5 years he posted a sub 3.00 ERA, 3 out of the 5 years he pitched over 210 innings, he struck out +200 twice, his WHIP was good except for his year when he pitched only 63 innings. He did very well as a dodger. He was a disappointment as a Yankee, not a dodger If a pitcher missing 59% of his starts over a two year period constitutes "very well." I know, I know....someone will throw some WAR or fWAR stat that will say Chris Sales' entire contract of $30 million is being justified by 2013.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 01:20 PM) I think you should take another look at his numbers with the dodgers. He was very good for 3 years. He also made only 29 starts over a two year period due to injuries. 19 starts in one season, 10 in another. Well, better than Jake Peavy, that's for sure.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) Kevin Brown did nothing? His Dodgers' career, overall, was a disappointment. I think that's fair to say.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 01:05 PM) How has Danksy looked recently? I confess I haven't watched a game for more than a month (by far my longest sabbatical from White Sox baseball in 25 years)... Better, still not quite 100%, but probably 90%. Better fastball by a couple of MPH...change-up sharper, still struggling with FB control and giving up too many homers.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 11:50 AM) All of those players are seriously injury prone and declining. That team could win, yes, if nothing goes wrong. But it could just as easily, possibly more likely, fail completely and then the franchise would be ruined for the next 4 years. THEN we'd be talking about Cubs/Astros rebuild where you're a disaster for 5 years while you eat bad contracts for useless players and maybe the team goes bankrupt from absolutely no one coming to games for an extended period of time. We have to do this right. We have to be patient. It will only be a year or two at this point. And one thing has definitely been proven THIS year, that's adding the super contracts like Greinke and Hamilton aren't the answer, either. Greinke's entire reputation is based on "potential" and the 2009 season. Other than that, he hasn't been close to an elite pitcher meriting the kind of contract he received. (Not unlike the days of yore when they gave Kevin Brown, Jason Schmidt, Chan Ho Park and Darren Dreifort millions for doing nothing).

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) The Twins took Mauer first, the Cubs had the 2nd pick. Not sure if that's what you meant. That's why it was such a shock. Yeah, I got it switched around.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Olivo walked out on the Marlins in May because they would not release him finally got released the other day........I want no part of a quitter. Maybe he learned from Ozzie?

QUOTE (MEANS @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 11:33 AM) Do you start a thread for every idea that pops into your head? jeezus.....calm down..... Fine, then we should go back to the Catch-All Thread, lol.

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) I hear you, which is why the Kris Bryant pick was so brilliant. Not brilliant, just logical. Like when they picked Prior over Mauer and it was logical for the Twins to take Joe.

Rockies: The NL West surprises extend to a Rockies club that has been better than advertised, but still needs some help. Going into the season, the Rockies felt that strong returns from Jhoulys Chacin and Jorge De La Rosa could vault them into contention, because they didn't expect anybody to up and run away with the West. Sure enough, that's precisely how it's played out. How will the Trade Deadline play out? That's up to Dan O'Dowd and Bill Geivett to decide, but the Rockies have been actively kicking the tires to address their usual need -- pitching -- and have been linked to the likes of Yovani Gallardo, John Danks and Matt Garza. They might also seek to upgrade their bullpen, perhaps making a play for Boulder, Colo., native Jesse Crain. Of course, those pursuits are contingent upon continued contention, and the Rockies have been living largely off the fumes of their strong start, having posted losing records in May and June. But the NL West is so wide open that it's tempting for a team in the Rockies' position to take the bait and go for it. mlb.com (castrovince)

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) I recall seeing him ranked as the #2 prospect in a loaded Atlanta Braves system going into 2012 (behind Julio Teheran), but if he can't get on the field, then it doesn't really matter. At this point, I think they'd be thrilled if he turned out to be a quality reliever by 2015/2016. And that's the problem with pitching prospects especially. If you went back to 1999-2001, the White Sox has the best group of pitching prospects in baseball, and almost all of them were disappointments or were injured, except for Mark Buehrle, Josh Fogg, Kip Wells and Jon Garland. But they had about 9-10-11 guys at that time. Fogg and Wells didn't succeed in Chicago, either, and were traded for Todd Ritchie.

We should go after Brian Wilson to replace Crain (and add some veteran stability, flip possibilities in 2014) and Nelson Cruz to replace Rios if the price falls low enough...of course, you always run the risk he get suspended next year Olney's Latest: Biogenesis, Utley, Wilson, Garza By Steve Adams [July 5 at 10:54am CST] In his latest column (Insider subscription required and recommended), ESPN's Buster Olney writes that Nelson Cruz is among the players whose free agent stock could be severely impacted by the Biogenesis scandal. If Cruz is cleared of any wrongdoing by that time he will be fine, but if discipline has yet to be handed out, or he receives a suspension near the end of the season, teams will be wary. Cruz's case could be further complicated if the Rangers make him a qualifying offer. Here are a few of the highlights from Olney's excellent piece... The Blue Jays are looking for upgrades in their rotation and at second base, and they will be interested in Chase Utley should the Phillies make him available. Former Giants closer Brian Wilson is working out in Hawaii and could pitch for teams later this month or in early August. The Cubs are "making progress" in trade negotiations surrounding Matt Garza, and they're actively talking with the Rangers, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Indians and Dodgers. They may also still be involved in talks with the Orioles as well as other NL West teams. Olney also spoke with his colleague Jayson Stark on today's Baseball Tonight podcast, and they discussed the impact of Biogenesis on pennant races in addition to discussing the upcoming trade deadline (Biogenesis talk begins immediately; trade discussions begin shortly after the 11:00 mark). Olney said he'd be "shocked" if Garza was still on the Cubs by the All-Star break, but Stark hears that the Cubs may prefer to wait for a team to meet their price, even if it means waiting until the end of July. Stark and Olney agree that Garza will have the highest price tag of any player on the trade market. The Dodgers, Rangers and Rockies are the three teams that are still in the mix on Ricky Nolasco, while the other formerly interested parties are "on the periphery" according to Stark.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) Based on the seasons they're having, McCann/Utley/Morales will almost definitely be trying to get multi-year deals. Utley seems like a lock for the Dodgers, in my opinion. Granderson's the only one that might take a 1-yr deal to try and raise his stock again. With their new t.v. deal, the Phillies are talking about trying to keep both Lee and Utley going forward.

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 11:10 AM) We'll have to cover the pitching situation after the Garza trade. 2015 1. Samardzija 2. ? 3. ? 4. Pierce Johnson/Arodys Vizcaino 5. Edwin Jackson I'm guessing that they'll push towards a 150 million payroll in a couple years from now, so they'll have plenty of cash to fill out a rotation. I thought that Theo was flirting with clown status when he made a push to sign Anibal Sanchez, but I was wrong. Anibal confuses the hell out of me, though. His month-to-month splits indicate that he's got some issues between the ears. Still, he would have been a solid #3 for years to come. Edwin Jackson is one of the worst investments in the majors at 13 million per season through 2016. Vizcaino has been garbage this season, FWIW. Doesn't Pierre Johnson play for Baylor basketball? Oh, that's Jackson.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 10:31 AM) I'm not sure if he's going to be pitching 12 months from now, yet Yeah, depending on the recommendations of 2-3 medical experts in the sports surgery field (and ptac)....if there was no possibility of coming back next year, it would be better to wait until 2015.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 09:22 AM) Then Olivo is not your man. That is exactly the reason he walked out on the Marlins. And thinking about it further, Olivo should not be on any team with the way he handled that(walking out on the Marlines due to decreased playing time). That is bush league I just want to hear Harrelson with the call when he throws someone out at 2B on a steal, lol. Fine, then Kelly Shoppach, from everything I've read, he's very well liked and respected around the league.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) Agree. I'd like to see them bring in an important piece or two, but there's no reason to dump $50 million or so into the 2014 team. You'll take a few risks with young players alongside the few new faces. If we don't win, which is probably likely, you have the chance to trade away a guy like Dunn and get some more prospects and continue gradually mixing in FA vets and young players in 2015 (hard to prognosticate that far when we don't know how young players are going to be doing) And Peavy, if he can stay healthy and we time it right. Maybe we can also bring back Gavin Floyd and flip him (via waivers) in August if he's not ready before July 31st.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 09:18 AM) Continuing to develop these two and seeing who can be a starter for them going into the future, if either can, is the proper thing to do. They know that both of them can hit the pitching at AAA. Let them play an equal share going forward. I can just anticipate all the Phegley fans saying he never really had an extended shot at everyday play because he was alternating with Tyler and never was able to get into an offensive rhythm.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 09:02 AM) The Sox aren't going to add a veteran catcher. In the position they are in now is when they need to take their lumps to see if they have a starting catcher in the mix. I never said I wanted him (Olivo/Shoppach) to play more than once every ten days. Just that it would be MUCH better to have an experienced tutor/mentor in that position than someone like Gimenez, who was never part of the long-term plan in the first place. Someone to show some leadership, who other players will listen to, a professional...because the coaching staff alone doesn't seem to be fixing all these defensive problems, so they need to look at other alternatives, SUCH AS having a "player/coach" in the Sandy Alomar, Jr., tradition as the back-up. I don't think they want to platoon Tyler and Josh. One player should be the clear starter (for the time being, Phegley), and the other should be getting everyday at-bats in Charlotte.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 5, 2013 -> 09:08 AM) This exact strategy is about to get Jack Z fired this offseason. No one is buying tickets now because the team sucks. Jason Bay isn't going to bring them back. The Sox need to get good as soon as possible to bring ticket sales back. Giving at bats to old, bad players instead of developing young, high-upside players will only slow this process down. No one will come see a 65 win team just like no one will come see a 70 win team just like no one will come see a 75 win team. Never said I LIKED it, just that it was more likely than going out to spend money on those BIG 4 FREE AGENTS we keep referring to.