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The thing is, the KC Royals didn't make Alex Rios hesistate when breaking for the plate (probably the fact that he knew runs can't score from third with less than 2 outs) or make Alexei Ramirez fall asleep and get picked off 3rd as well. The Royals were willing to give us that game (the Guthrie errant throw down the 1B line), and likely the playoffs with a 3 game lead and only 13 left to go. But we gave it right back to them by not destroying their will to fight back in that game, and had the predictable bullpen letdown late. If we got Liriano a 4-5-6 run lead, that game would have turned out much differently.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:58 PM) That is true. Only the White Sox. ... If we collapse the rest of the way and don't make the postseason, will you guys be mad or just sad? This team is so bizarre I feel differently depending on the day. Resigned. And knowing the challenge posed by Detroit is only going to be greater next season with Martinez back, Alburquerque for the entire season....maybe a ROY campaign by Avisail Garcia. All things considered, it would be a miracle for the Sox to beat DET next year unless Verlander and Scherzer both go down to injury. Not quite as bad as in 2008, because that would have been 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2008 that the Twins had beaten us, with only 2005 in between.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:42 PM) Only we could get owned by Chen, Guthrie, and Santana all right in a row We didn't really get owned like the other two guys. We just didn't take advantage of numerous opportunities presented. What new?

THIS.TEAM.IS.DEAD. Was it over when the Chinese took over the Diaoyu Islands?

QUOTE (rafacosta @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:27 PM) what the hell is Viciedo doing in this lineup? RV, you still have the division in your hands. Bench his sorry ass agst RHs, at least! You have to go Wise in CF, DeAza in LF from here on out against righties. Maybe even getting in Johnson more often against tough righties, although it's pretty hard to bench Konerko. You also might have to move Beckham up and Youk down, or at least have Wise second on the road instead of YOUK.

Jake Peavy is not an ace. No news there. Goodbye, and good riddance. They're getting fastballs to hit, the White Sox haven't gotten any since Game 1 against the Royals. The reason, as Farmer notes, because they're swinging at the other crap.

The Tigers play horribly on the road...where they will be to end the season. The Tigers are also going to have a much more difficult time sweeping the Twins with a day/night doubleheader Sunday. As long as we're in first place on Monday, even if it's a tie for 1st, we'll probably be okay. Even if we're down by 1, we play the Indians well and the Rays might already be eliminated from all reasonable contention...not to mention we don't face David Price as things are currently lining up, obviously subject to change.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) I don't want Peavy back with the Sox, discount or not. All he does is throw fat 90 mph fastballs and hanging sliders. The dude is garbage. Wise is in CF, this game is still tied 1-1 and you're not calling Peavy garbage. DeAza in CF is playing like garbage, that much is true. Meanwhile, the White Sox hitting .241 on the road and looking to be dead in the water with just one hit. Bad hop prevents Ramirez from making a play, but he probably would have been safe anyway at 1B.

At some point in the future, we'll have runners who can beat out those plays....unlike Dunn, Konerko and AJ. Station to station corpseball in the 2nd half has left so many runners in scoring position at 2nd and 3rd because they can't advance two bases at a time. It's like they're all standing around and waiting for the homers instead of taking good approaches, knowing Santana's leading the majors in taters given up.

White Sox forgetting to hit the ball up the middle and to the opposite field like earlier in the season when they were going so well offensively. Manto and Ventura really need to wake them up somehow before we get swept away by Haren and Weaver.

QUOTE (Skipper @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:57 PM) Too many mental errors recently. I think this team is just running out of gas. It's an error whenever DeAza is in CF with his back to the wall. Then there was just a brain cramp or lack of awareness about the situation...not hustling to get the ball back in quickly enough. No excuses, and we're seeing these kinds of mistakes game after game after game biting us in the behinds. Rios and Ramirez yesterday, Dayan the game before (as well as Dayan and Alexei hitting with the bases loaded), DeAza sucking tonight defensively as he's obviously not comfortable in CF. That puts RV in the position of having to bench Viciedo and play DeAza in LF and Wise in CF. And that's not a good long-term solution for organization.

DeAza just gave the Angels two runs. Playing way too far back in CF again. Bench him. Then he ended up lackadaisically surrendering 2B to Pujols. Should have been a single and just one RBI, not a double and two RBI's. Actually, Wise would have been camped right under it and the game would/should have been tied still. So he's given us one run with the homer but cost two runs defensively. Our outfield defense has really cost us in the last week or so, especially Dayan and DeAza, who's just not confident enough going back on balls to not play with the CF fence right behind him.

C'mon Youk, let's pick up this RISP. Sigh. If Beckham continues to rake and Youk takes another 0 fer, you almost have to move Gordon to the 2 spot or Wise. Maybe you move Beckham up to 6th or 7th if you're going to play Wise and bat him 2nd. Either way, less Youk and Viciedo at-bats right now, especially on the road and against RHP. You might even have to think about sitting Konerko a bit and playing Johnson (against tough righties like Haren or Weaver).

75% of the time, he really doesn't have to do those 360 spin moves. I think it was warranted that time, but he tends to go for the flashy ESPN highlight plays when they're not always necessitated.

Almost the best double play of the year if Ramirez could have completed his patented spin move and made the accurate throw.

Goodbye, another Peavy lead. Albeit just one run. Callaspo simply kills the White Sox, whether he's on the Royals or Angels, doesn't matter. Wish we could have him as our 3B, just so he couldn't face us (the Mark Teahen theory).

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) I think it's gotta be considered. Youk looked awful there and is hitting what since the ASB? .201, but 754 OPS. In fact, his OPS numbers are pretty consistent from the 1st to the 2nd half, although he started out miserably with Boston. So that run he had right after the trade for 3 weeks with the Sox really picked those numbers up going into the ASB.

Santana hasn't pitched for 9 days. Seems like he used to throw 93-96 MPH before. Definitely looks like he has lost something off his stuff.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) Who else is thinking about putting Gordon back in the 2 hole? On the road, if you look at the splits....YOUK definitely should be moved down. Hunter just missed that one. Getting ahead in counts, that's encouraging, and not giving the lead right back to them. Trumbo has really hit the skids since the last time the two teams played.

Trout finally hitting a wall offensively. Angels' announcers boldly declare Beckham the frontrunner for the Gold Glove. I'll believe it when I see it, Beckham beating Robinson Cano.

Peavy given yet ANOTHER lead to work with. What will happen this time around?

Laser beam out of there right down the RF line. 36 homers surrendered by Santana...22 against LHBers. Youk continuing his road struggles in the 2 hole. Walk off homer for the Yankees against the A's, only their 3rd of the season. Russell Martin off Doolittle. Angels clinging to slim WC hopes, 4 behind the A's right now, BALT likely to beat the Red Sox. Pretty sure the A's play Rangers 7 more times, not sure if they have one more head to head with the Angels. Maybe it's against the Mariners. Orioles have won a stunning 8 of 9 at Boston now. Never thought I'd say that in my lifetime. No Angels' announcers, it's NOT a walk-off homer for DeAza. Wishful thinking for Sox fans, but pretty hard to walk off on the road unless the home team quits or forfeits in the middle of the game. Angels' crowd is either very late arriving or a bit skeptical of their chances, with the loss last night.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) If rotations hold, this is what we're looking at: 9-21 Peavy vs Santana 9-22 Quintana vs Haren 9-23 Floyd vs Weaver 9-24 Sale vs McAllister 9-25 Liriano vs Kluber 9-26 Peavy vs Masterson 9-27 Quintana vs Shields 9-28 Floyd vs Moore 9-29 Sale vs Cobb 9-30 Liriano vs Hellickson 10-1 Peavy vs Kluber 10-2 Quintana vs Masterson 10-3 Floyd vs Jimenez Wow, we have the 20% odds of missing David Price and do so? That would be a huge break.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 07:32 PM) Still over paying for reputation. Exactly. If Peavy goes out there tonight like a Buehrle, Garcia and Garland did in 2005 and just completely shut down a dominant Angels' offense, then you start to believe in him a little more. But he's never shown the ability to do that with the White Sox.

They're not going to decline a one year option, eat $4 million, then turn around and give him another $30 million. They might as well just exercise the option if they're planning to do that. With how he's pitched the last two months, good but not great like in the first half, and with TONS of wear and tear on him thanks to numerous extended starts by Ventura/Cooper, you simply can't take that risk.