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Beckham 2 for his last 20 and 7 for 46. Rondon with a triple and a homer??? Dunn tater. Dialed up for the fastball. First HR/RBI since the Giants series at USCF. Carroll starts aren't the most popular here around SoxTalk, haha.

DJ and Farmer ripping on Ortiz not running out that last ball and turning for the dugout before the ball even got to 1B.

Rondon with a triple AND a homer. WHAT???

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 05:33 PM) Something I hadn't realized before until checking out his stats, but this is Jordan Danks' 5th season in Charlotte. You don't see that too often with the same organization. He's first or second now in nearly every historical Charlotte Knights category. Crash Davis-esque.

How good is May in the outfield? Has anyone seen him play before?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) I wouldnt be shocked if he got hurt for awhile, but no. Is Konerko already being asked to be part of the coaching staff in the future...or one of those, "give it a year or so and see how you feel" things where they're leaving the door open, like with Thome/Ventura, etc.

Target Sale fliers up in Washington's bullpen, along with their Rendon campaign material.

Reynaudo or TUC's pick, Rubby going for the Red Sox on WED apparently

Start of game delayed due to the threat of imminent weather... No time given. Hopefully the weather will pass through and they can get it in. Lightning in the area.

David Ortiz was just going off on a Baseball Network broadcast from the last 24 hours where someone apparently was bringing up the fact that he "seemed to be getting a free pass" on the steroids issue. Sensitive. Me thinketh he doth protesteth too much. Lots of cursing/bleeps in his interview, saying nobody in America gets a free pass (that he'd been tested 40 times, etc.)...had something to do with John Lackey, couldn't quite figure out how his name got brought in the conversation.

Goodbye, DeAza...nice knowing you. Or Dunn. Whatever. It would be better to see him limited to DH duties, imo, although they'd have to talk to Paulie....Konerko's wishes shouldn't get in the way of preparing Avisail to hit the ground running in 2015. Unless you're Victor Martinez, and even then it took him 1/2 season plus...it's important to maintain your timing as a hitter, so not losing the entire season is amazing news. Wonder if they plan on letting him play "unsupervised" in Venezuela for winter ball?

What the hell happened with Yoan Moncada? Surprised we haven't heard yet about the Yankees signing him.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 12:59 PM) They'll get a legit prospect IMO. Not anybody world-beating but someone who would be solidly top-10 in our system and a quality second piece like a reliever or someone with ceiling who is far away. With Texas there is always the possibility of an expanded deal of Rios + RP which could bring in a nice return. But whatever they get, if after the deal we call the Rangers and offer Leury Garcia straight-up for their Rios return they'll laugh us off the phone. The thing is, at that point, Rios still had $20 million remaining on his contract, plus the option year (which probably won't be exercised). It's sort of like the White Sox trying to trade John Danks right now and expecting much more than Leury Garcia in return. What makes you think the Rangers are capable of getting more? They look stupid these days, trading Kinsler for Fielder...causing so many bad feelings with Michael Young's position change/s and eventual departure, letting Nelson Cruz go only to see him return with a vengeance with the Orioles...overvaluing their middle infield prospects like Profar and Odor and promptly seeing their value fall substantially.

Why did you have to give TUC another "penis" metaphor to work with???

QUOTE (venom4789 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) While i am sure there are there moments it seems this board doesnt have the random trolls that continually pop up over there, or posters who continue to say the same thing over and over. That's mostly TUC's outlandish attempts at humor.

QUOTE (venom4789 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) Sorry if this is in the wrong area but wasnt able to find a thread or folder where to post if your a new poster and to introduce yourself. just figured i would say hi since i have just recently joined the board. I have been a huge white sox fan my whole life, originally a poster at whitesox.com but after recent updates to their message board and constant bickering over politics i have decided to move to greener pastures. Seems like a lot of people know baseball pretty well here so hoping it leads to great conversations, discusions and even arguements. My favorite white sox player black jack My favorite game i went to was game 2 against the redsox in 05 when iguchi hit the big homerun. Favorite player in baseball is ken griffey jr, i could watch him swing a bat for hours. And the play that always sticks out to me was watching robin ventura try to charge nolan ryan, i was a huge fan of venture and just remember being devasted when he got put in the headlock. Looking forward to contributing and having fun. 2001-2004 it was quite an interesting/polarized atmosphere at whitesox.com, all the hate for KW and just a very few defenders. How that all changed in 2005.

I think a lot of agents are going to be wary of dealing with the Astros...this seems to fit with how they go about doing business. In the long run, they might win with this tactic on the financial side, but it tends to leave a bad taste. Whether it's this situation, the release of the proprietary database trade information, Bud Norris' comments, lots of former and current players (anonymously), the low-balling contract strategy with Springer/Singleton/Dominguez/Grossman being offered long-term extensions before they've even played at the major league level...let's just say their path and the Cubs' will always be intriguing ones to follow, that's for sure. If they succeed, they'll change baseball even more to the quant/SABR side. If not, another setback or black eye.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Sigh, already a projected #2 without a pitch thrown. That's just asinine. And going mostly off this collegiate season, which statistically was better than the previous one except W/L record. It's like movie critics. Popular to pile on when there's some fresh blood on the water, instead of focusing on the positives.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:30 AM) That's how it works? So potentially could have two top 10 picks next year?? That makes me a little less worried. So essentially we're just like the Cubs then....maybe 2017, maybe 2018, maybe never. Not to mention the fact that they would almost be FORCED to draft collegiate players with those two high draft picks, because they'd have lost another year of Abreu and Sale in their primes. Which would make that draft even more high risk for the Sox.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) No To me, it's Montas. I meant among active pitchers. Others will say Danish or Beck. Or Erik Johnson. But there's certainly nobody we can count on between now and 2015 Opening Day. In fact, I'd say the one best equipped to do it is our new closer, Jake Petricka. It's (theoretically) also the death of Alexei Ramirez's White Sox career (since there will be no clear path to competitiveness in 2015 and 2016 would be 50/50), and likely the end of Viciedo's as well, if for no other reason than Boras being his agent.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) If Rodon wants as much or more than the #1 over all pick then f*** him. Good luck improving next years draft status. Rodon needs the Sox more than the Sox need him. I'm not so sure about that...we have no pitching prospects to speak of right now. Angel Sanchez might be our best pitching prospect right now, after two teams gave up on him in the past 6 months. Boras knows that, and he knows we don't want to go into the free agent market for pitching...he also knows the White Sox, unlike the Cubs, can't push the rebuild another year into the future without hemorrhaging another 10-15% of fans with season ticket packages. Essentially, it would force the White Sox to spend in the offseason and make a splash big enough to move the meter on season tickets...not even James Shields is going to do that, probably. It would have to be Scherzer or Price, and no way the White Sox have the pieces to trade for Price (goodbye Tim Anderson, Hawkins and Micah Johnson or Montas) or the desire to extend him since he's also left-handed (like Lester). Just imagine the 0.001% chance we keep hearing...if he doesn't sign, this board will be in full meltdown mode for two or three weeks and you'll see threads all offseason about how cheap the White Sox are if they don't shell out money for Scherzer/Lester/Shields...which is probably the last thing they should be doing logically at this point in the rebuild. It will be viewed as White Flag II...unless Rodon's arm falls off or he never ends up making much of an impact in the majors.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:09 AM) A lot of it rides on how JS does in the AL, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Dempster and Garza stink it up when they were dealt to AL teams by the Cubs? The AL is a different animal, especially the AL West. I don't blame Beane for making this trade because I love seeing teams "go for it" but it's a very high risk high reward type trade on their end. If they win the WS then they can probably live with whatever the guys they traded to the Cubs wind up doing. Offensively, the Angels and Astros (will soon) have the ability to be scary, but the Rangers are way down and the Mariners are all pitching and Safeco. The Angels have Trout, of course...but Pujols and Hamilton aren't what they once were, and that line-up's been missing some thunder ever since they traded Trumbo. The reason they're winning is 1) Trout and 2) starting pitching.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 08:58 AM) I say you are right if not more. i remember some numbers bouncing around 8 - 9 million. but with the way all info was being thrown around, i am prob wrong. that's what he was supposedly asking for...$8 million...that was rumored around the week before the draft the White Sox obviously don't even have the space to go to $9 million, and I'm sure they would fold and admit defeat in the face of that demand, which would only end up making both Hahn and Boras look dumb in the end

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 08:55 AM) I think the Cubs did well. Samardjiza is a nice pitcher but that's as far as it goes. He's not worth the $100 mil he's asking for. If he's worth that then Sale is worth about $140-$150 mil when his time comes for a long term deal. I think it was a good deal for both teams but Oakland better win it this year because I think Beane unloads Samardjiza in the offseason. No title + trading away a top 6-7 prospect in MLB + eventually trading JS = Failure. As for the Northsiders lack of pitching, they'll probably start acquiring some this offseason. God knows they have the $$ and prospects for it. If they don't it'd be a real slap in the face to their fans. All depends on what they get back for him. Oakland has six pitchers already...they have Milone parked there in AAA with a 2.62 ERA and 6-0 record in his last 11 starts but no spot in the rotation nevertheless. If anything, it's more like the Jackson for Hudson/Holmberg move, or its equivalent in 2014. Sacrificing part of the future for a "win now/no excuses" mentality amongst the players. With Cespedes on the market after 2015...their window is this year and next. That's pretty much it before they have to reload/retool again.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) I think Taylor will get a shot eventually. I just wanted to give you some more s***, because it's fun. Except he's four years older than Viciedo. Essentially, he's got this year and next to be in the prime of his career, if he figures out how to use his height/leverage and throw up some decent homer totals...and he's only been given about 75 career major league at-bats up until now to find that out (compared to someone like Joe Borchard, for example).