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It makes sense for 2 reasons: 1) We have Viciedo to replace him 2) It's the same trade as Hudson for Edwin Jackson, 1 1/2 years versus 5 years of cost-controlled player (minus Holmberg) 3) We MIGHT be able to use some of that $7.5-9 million allocated to CQ (2012) to improve the team elsewhere

I'm not sure they're actually ready to deal Turner for Ubaldo Jimenez though. It will be interesting to see who they do end up with. Seems like Kuroda wants to stay in the NL. Someone along the lines of a Jeremy Guthrie.

There's just no way you can say Pierre is a better hitter than Alexei Ramirez. Not just because of a couple of points on his BA.

I should have added Alex Rios to the list but that one's more of a pipe dream. You'd have to package him with 2 other highly desirable players, and doing that will weaken the team too much to compete down the stretch in 2011. Offseason, you see what you can do or just go with him again as the starter for 2012 and hope he can get hot again so you can deal him and not have to send $20-25 million to another organization.

31-22 against teams over .500 this season. Of course, we're the equally baffling 9 games under .500 against "bad" teams like the Royals, Twins and Orioles. Biggest pitch of the game was definitely K'ing Youkilis with the bases loaded on the offspeed pitch.

Yeah, definitely. If the Sox come up short again, you have to look at dealing Thornton, Floyd/Danks (maybe both), Quentin, Frasor or Crain, POSSIBLY Alexei in the offseason. I'd prefer to keep Ramirez with Viciedo joining the Sox, though.

2nd time to .500 mark this season. Stupid Chatwood (our nemesis) got rocked by the Tigers. Figures.

Cabrera and Gordon are probably the co-MVP's of the Royals this season. Imagine if we'd been prescient enough to get Melky instead of Rios 2 years ago. Yeah, hindsight. Cabrera's look pretty darned bad the last couple of seasons before finally rebounding in pressure-less KC.

What the heck happened to Hayden Panetierre? She really went downhill. I guess Kristin Kreuk would have fit in this category 5 years ago, or Rachel Leigh Cook 10 years ago.

If you could get major league ready players, I still think you deal Carlos Quentin. Including for B. Beachy. Dealing Matt Thornton also makes a lot of sense if 1) you want to put Sale in Thornton's role and don't view him as a starter 2) you want to save money for 2012 and 3) You have Beachy/Stewart for the back end of the rotation, along with a wild card in Hector Santiago. If you keep Buehrle, that means you can still argue that you can compete for the division, but probably not losing 2/3 (Buehrle/Floyd/Danks). ALL IN 2012 means you keep Quentin, Thornton, Buehrle and Danks. Can the White Sox actually afford to do this, especially in light of today's very disappointing Friday night attendance against one of the top draws in the game, on a beautiful night, with the popular fireworks, etc.?

If they can't draw 30,000 against BOSTON tonight, it just doesn't seem that there's any way Danks is going to get any kind of extension. You can pretty much forget about that one. Lip service, but goodbye sooner or later.

Santos has recovered very nicely from that shaky run in the middle of the season. Has really taken the bull by the horn with that closer's role now.

Farmer calling for an Ortiz bunt down the 3B line.

She was cute in "Monte Carlo" at least. I'd still take the more sophisticated Emily Blunt.

Santos is definitely going to earn this save. Laser Light Show (why does Farmer call him that??), Ortiz and YOUK.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) I've never understood how, for a few years now, the Sox carry a certain swagger when facing elite teams. Put them up against the Royals or Twins and they walk around like they're scared sh**less. Makes no sense. We're not scared against the Royals. But we did used to simply intimidate them and have KC beaten before the series would start from 1993-2006. We've also faced a lot of guys we'd never seen before (Paulino/Duffy) and the bad luck of Bruce Chen in rhythm 2 times. Didn't realize Gio Gonzalez was all the way down to a 2.67 ERA. 124 K's in 124 IP. Thanks for taking down the Twins tonight, GIO.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:03 PM) It's definitely shaping up that he'll be kept and then traded in the offseason. That might be best for the organization, as you wouldn't "white flag" this season and then try to get some cost-controlled help for next year. It wouldn't shock me if Viciedo's injury is worse than they've let on, but we don't want to announce it until after the deadline. It's nothing like Quentin's hamate bone injury from late 2008, is it? Wrist? Strained/sprained/microfractured?

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) rofl that schedule they just showed is so SCARY The only thing that's scary is the Twins. We can handle the Yankees and Orioles.

Trading for A prospects wasn't going to be the right move for KW. Domonic Brown, sure. But not some guys who MIGHT make an impact 2-3 years down the line. There's rebuilding with an eye towards 2013 and towards 2015, and that long-term thinking just isn't going to work with our fans unless it's Liriano/Nathan/Bonser in return.

2005 against the Dodgers at USCF?? Joking. Darnell McDonald PH? Dioner Navarro? Nope, the infamous Y Navarro

Thornton warming. Ohman had been up. Sutton/Scutaro/Ellsbury due. We're really going to take 7 in a row against BOSTON? That's pretty amazing. More amazing than their bad records against KC and Minnesota, almost.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 07:49 PM) Gotta see who the other two PTBL are. That said, the Astros are probably at least half a decade away from competing again. Yeah, ideally you want guys who are on the brink. But in their current position, they just need high-end talent. And they got that in Cosart and Singelton, at least. The other two are supposed to be in A ball as well. I think the Astros SHOULD have gotten at least ONE pretty sure thing, a guy in AA ball at least within months of making a major league impact. He's their best player. Theoretically, you might not get any big time contributors out of this trade, and you're left marketing Bourn, Wandy Rodriguez and Carlos Lee? REALLY?

Here's one thing I don't get. How did the Marlins fail so badly in assessing Andruw Miller and Cameron Maybin?

Might want to try another strategy there against Salty.

That was surely the textbook definition of a manufactured run by this 2011 Sox "offense."