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Cubs targeting Teahen? Does that make sense?
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QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:45 PM) Does anything the Cubs do make sense? They signed Dempster for 52mil for cryin out loud. Yeah, but we're paying Javy $23 million for two seasons. That's only a difference of only $1.5 million per season. I think I'd rather have Dempster's contract if I could exchange it for Javy's straight up as of today. I wouldn't think twice if it was 3 years intead of 4, but that obviously increases the risk to the Cubs. -
QUOTE (MO2005 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) Seriously instead of investing so much time into this post, invest it into some common sense..Number one why does ANYONE want these players on this team. They make no sense anywhere near this team. Eric Hinske vs. Brian Anderson? Jason Varitek vs. Cole? Pedro Martinez vs. Clayton Richard or Poreda. It is a waste of a couple million dollars that could be used elsewhere. Speed does not slump!!! If you throw guys like Jerry Owens, Wily Taveras, Chone Figgins, etc. etc. into speed roles, they will use speed to create opportunities. Winning in baseball involves role players. If Owens job is to bunt to create an opportunity, then let him bunt 100 times next year to get into a pitcher's head that he is hard to get out. Look what makes the Twins so damn successful. Everyone hates them because guys like Gomez and Span will bunt to just create opportunities. What I am saying is instead of talking about backup guys that we already get enough of on this team should be swapped for guys like Nick Punto, what about him? Howie Kendrick, what about him? Damn I'll even go out on a limb here and say Felix Pie as a back-up..Kenny knows he needs someone to put some fear into opposing pitchers! Now Mike MacDougal is a waste of a couple of million that could be used elsewhere. To say bringing in someone like Colon, Garcia or Pedro as the fifth starter is a waste of money...well...it's far from clear that the White Sox even view Poreda as a starter for 2009, and it's far from clear that Richard can consistently get through opposing line-ups the 2nd and 3rd time around. Yeah, we're not going to bring in Varitek as a back-up or even platoon, and it's also far from clear that we've just given the job to Cole Armstrong already. We don't know what KW's thinking, but I doubt it's whether Eric Hinske would be better than Anderson/Wise/Owens. The reason the Twins scare other teams is because of that dome...mostly. Before, it was Liriano/Santana and then Nathan...that could be intimidating. I don't think Jerry Owens will ever intimidate anyone like Pods did the first 3-4 months of 2005. Taveras? Closer. But Punto diving into 1B when he's out on a routine grounder to SS by 15 feet? Well, that's just kind of silly grinderism. Pablo Ozuna brought much of the same to Sox, by the way. The Twins have won 4/7 division championships, the White Sox 3/9 and a World Series. Why should we be copying them, exactly? Especially since they are moving into a new facility and it's unclear how that will translate...they certainly were a horrible to average road team last year. Finally, if we should emulate anything, it's the Twins' success in incubating Scott Baker, Liriano, Perkins, Blackburn and Slowey within the last couple of seasons. We really haven't been able to get one legit starter to the big leagues since Buehrle/Garland/Wells.
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Sorry, just waking up here in Thailand. Shouldn't have said it in that way...no, I don't have any "insider/Cuban" information on Viciedo. Just speculation like everyone else. Although if we do trade Dye for Victorino, move Quentin to RF and Viciedo is our new LF/3B platoon, it would be interesting to say the least. Apparently KW didn't show any interest in Crisp at all. Darn. I had him pegged for bringing in Blake and Crisp at the start of the off-season. Crisp had a .392 on-base percentage after the All-Star break this past season and played very well in a season in which he and Jacoby Ellsbury exchanged the roles of starter and extra man because of injuries to J.D. Drew and Manny Ramirez. He is one of the better defensive center fielders in the game, and his .751 OPS in 2008 and his stellar defensive play are upgrades for the Royals -- whose center fielders had an OPS of .638 this past season. The Red Sox surveyed what was a surprisingly small market for Crisp -- Cincinnati was the other club with the most interest -- and decided that with Jeremy Affeldt starting out the 2008 free-agent market by signing a two-year, $8 million deal with the Giants, it likely will be easier to find another outfielder than secure a low-cost power reliever. Peter Gammons
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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 06:51 PM) We trade Jermaine Dye for Victorino? Why? Dye is still a solid ballplayer with much value to the Sox. You fill one need and open up a second Because it's much harder to find a quality CFer than a corner outfielder, although Dye's numbers put him in "elite" company for the past four years at that position. Victorino's a younger player near his prime years, Dye's aging, losing range and might be an injury or full-time DH waiting to happen. We've been lucky with him so far, for the most part, coming off the injuries he had in Oakland. Victorino has a more affordable contract...you can move Quentin over to RF. It's much easier to find a LFer (heck, Josh Fields is a possibility) to get "average" MLB production out of without overpaying than to find a Top 10 MLB CF. Irony, of course...we had Reed, Anthony Webster, Rowand, Brian Anderson and Chris B. Young four seasons ago (a seeming embarassment of riches), and none of them have turned out to be the long-term solution for various reasons.
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The BEST we could hope for in this pitching market from the FA market is Oliver Perez, Randy Wolf or Jon Garland. All will probably make MORE than Javier Vazquez, and for 3-5 year contracts. Well, Wolf, maybe not, but close. Halladay would cost us almost about the same as our winter stove moves for Pujols, Jose Reyes/David Wright and Evan Longoria. If they want to give us Vernon Wells and eat part of that contract, KW could potentially bite on that one...or Rios.
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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 05:21 PM) He was only the starting DH and what, #3/4 hitter? The argument is that he was the WORST of the starting line-up (how you can compare his numbers to Iguchi or Pods and state with equivocation Everett was "worse" or less important is beyond me, it's certainly not crystal-clear)....then you have the five starting pitchers, Jenks, Hermanson, etc. It's a logical argument...but one that will never be settled, because that team was always more than the sum of its individual parts, which is ALWAYS the case with championship teams unless they're the Yankees or Red Sox that can just overwhelm with talent. However, the best Yankees teams weren't just big budget successes, they had their share of Scott Brosiuses, Miguel Cairos, Mike Stantons, Jeff Nelsons and Paul O'Neills who weren't stars, but they knew how to win. Everett's the same type of player. A winner. As much as I don't get out Viagra and genuflect at the Rowand shrine, he was also the kind of player whose intangibles were hard to measure in box scores, like Iguchi. But I'll take the stance that each of these players have a special place in my heart...for SOMETHING that season...Timo's pinch-hitting to win a couple of games, Widger being part of the run in the line-up to rip homers off Randy Johnson, etc. Blum's liner off Wandy Rodriguez. Harris' single to get into scoring position for Dye, etc.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) What is this? 2001 when those guys were considered young? Just making an exaggerated point that superfast baseball players (with speed being their main asset) aren't usually GOOD baseball players OR football (Renaldo Nehemiah, Alexander Wright, etc.) players, although turning track stars into wide receivers makes a BIT more sense from a logic POV. For every Vince Coleman or Willie McGee that drove the Cardinals' offense, there was a Curt Ford and fortunately for us, Lance Johnson, who didn't fit in. AHA. That's the type of player we need, the modern-day equivalent of the ONE DOG. The players mentioned were just facetious mentionings of players who never amounted to much and are/were borderline starters/prospects/suspects. With the White Sox, the name Julio Ramirez comes to mind, not really for his speed solely but as someone hyped as a five tool player that was a dud. At least Pods had some "baseball skills" by the time he finally reached the majors with the Mariners, but he was still a pretty one-dimensional player.
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Cubs targeting Teahen? Does that make sense?
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in The Diamond Club
Suppose it works both ways....the "reasonable" contract makes him much more affordable to keep but also more attractive for other teams to acquire. He's a name player to most casual fans and Roto participants, but I still don't think he's the difference maker that many are looking for...where he's clearly a better option than someone like Coco Crisp. I lived in KC for ten years (1996-2007) and I've seen enough of him in CF at Kauffman to realize he's not someone I'd want out there for the White Sox, at least at that position, on an everyday basis. If he was healthy enough to play 150-155 games, that is. In fact, you can argue the Royals had to take on a contract that was a little steep for them (once again, historically) because they've learned DeJesus is NOT the answer at the position, and neither is Joey Gathright. -
If they don't get Burnett, they seem determined to take Lowe...still waiting word from Mussina this week on his plans. I think both of these deals will end up being disasters for the Yankees, especially if they go 5 years with Burnett, or even 4.
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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...as/extra_bases/ Deal confirmed at Boston Globe now. Interesting note: Some think Justin Masterson's going to the rotation (Buchholz/Wakefield spot) with this move, as Ramirez slides into Masterson's set-up role.
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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:05 AM) The A's organization is develooping quite a pedigree with Francona, Wash, Mancha, and now Waka really branching out. The Man from LaMacha...not to mention they incubated GM's Ricciardi and DiPodesta (not for long in LA), maybe I'm leaving a few others out. Grady Fuson.
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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:01 AM) Wow, the Royals are really good at making moves that force them to make other moves. A name change, perhaps? Kansas City Logjams? Maybe they'll now give us Billy Butler, who will make up for our losing out on Viciedo. Immobile but the potential to rake. I still think DeJesus, Teahen and Gathright are likely casualties. The problem is that Guillen is really a DH, masquerading as a RFer. I do think that things are really changing economically in baseball when the Royals can afford to take on Meche, Guillen and now Crisp with the downturn we're in. And the Red Sox are the ones shedding salary here. Maybe Maier in LF/CF.
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QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 09:59 AM) I think you mean Joey Gathright. Hahaha...I'm on drugs today. Kevin Bacon Six Degrees of Separation...thinking overwhelming speed...Carl Lewis in CF...Justin Gatlin...Joey Justin Gathright, lol.
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QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 09:37 AM) I hope you aren't correcting his spelling. It's "rapport." 1. repoire 11 up, 15 down Stupid people use this word when they mean "rapport". ". . . Given our 'repoire' I know your intention in saying it was not to make me laugh." So much for my University of Iowa education and six years of teaching. I should have gone to Northwestern, lol. This ranks up there with uncharted/unchartered waters I think. mlbtraderumors.com (By the way, Jenksy market just shrunk a little more. Valverde and Wigginton were put on the market by the 'Stros.) 8:48am: According to Brian McRae reporting for Sports Radio 810 in Kansas City, the Royals acquired Coco Crisp from the Red Sox for reliever Ramon Ramirez. I emailed McRae to confirm, and he said, "It's a done deal." The Royals get speed and a capable center fielder, while the Red Sox receive a quality late-game reliever. Crisp, 29, hit .283/.344/.407 in 409 plate appearances this year. His center field defense saved 26 bases over the average last year, but was two below this year (he did battle groin, hamstring, knee, and foot issues). Crisp will earn $5.75MM in '09 and has an $8MM club option with a $500K buyout for '10. The Red Sox trim payroll here, as Ramirez is not yet arbitration-eligible. He will not reach free agency until after the 2012 season, so the Red Sox impressively acquired four years of his services. The 27 year-old posted a 2.64 ERA in 71.2 innings this year while whiffing 70. The Royals might have to add a reliever to compensate for his absence. They're also a bit heavy on outfielders at this point. HEY, we can trade them Boone Logan for Justin Gathright and all of our CF problems are solved...lol. That would be like having Carl Lewis play CF. Cool!
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) Sox could still target DeJesus. I don't think the Royals will move him but there is obviously a good rappore as the Sox and Royals have made numerous deal in recent years. REPOIRE Rally McBoone/Dougal. LOL. I think some money must have changed hands from the Red Sox to the Royals...we'll find out later I guess.
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Cubs targeting Teahen? Does that make sense?
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (Frank the Tank 35 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:22 AM) This just became more feasible... Royals got Coco from Boston (as reported on the Score). As I stated in my offseason projection plan, the Royals have some position players to trade. They now have Gordon, Butler, Shealy, Jacobs, Teahen, DeJesus, Gathright, Crisp, Guillen, and eventually Moustakas to fit into 6 spots. My feeling is that they will try to trade DeJesus. He can be susceptible to injuries, he's not a CFer, he can't hit for enough power to play the corners, he's getting into that stage where he is overpaid for what he brings to a small market team...like Johnny Damon Lite. The Royals parted ways with Beltran, Damon and Dye when they became too successful, holding onto one-time franchise player and most popular Royal Mike Sweeney. I don't think DeJesus will be there long-term...Moore knows he's a complementary player on a great team, not a superstar. -
Cubs targeting Teahen? Does that make sense?
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) The Cubs would prefer Abreu or Ibanez, but aren't sure they want to pay for them. Reports are the Yankees will offer arbitration to Abreu. -
Everyone seems to know/believe he can and will hit... The question HAS to be about what position he will play and why would he show up to the biggest workout in his life after waiting for so long for such an opportunity and be incredibly out-of-shape? I mean...Torres has babysat/incubated enough baseball players in his career, and a lot of money was riding on this for him as well. Just doesn't make sense why he would look like a cross between Cecil Fielder and the Michelin Man with a little of Jack Black from The Fatties/Tropic Thunder thrown into the mix.
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QUOTE (rangercal @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 07:42 AM) I prefer the new Indian actress/model in "Slumdog Millionaire" with my popcorn. She's the hottest thing since, well, the Ecuadorian or Peruvian javelin thrower whose image was cavorting around here in recent days as a signature.
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QUOTE (TLAK @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 06:52 AM) You traded a guy who could not start a playoff game over Dewayne Wise for a utility infielder with strength from the left side. Plus the two pitchers the White Sox got vs the one they sent. The White Sox fit together better after the trade than they did before it. Did your KW free Kool-Aid life-size inflatable doll just come in the mail? That's WAY TOO LOGICAL. What's wrong with you? This is the worst Sox trade since, well, since Todd Ritchie or Sosa/Bell.
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Same AJ Hynch the White Sox tried to draft out of Stanford (I think, maybe it was HS instead) and got stuck with egg on their faces. Not unlike Bobby Seay and Bobby Hill, it was all much ado about nothing in the end, fortunately for the Sox.
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QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 07:11 AM) Their innings pitched increased dramatically last year. Injury is more likely than "regression" though the outcome will be about the same. The even bigger question to me is what happens with the Twins' rotation of youngsters? Do Perkins and Blackburn continue to go backwards? Does Liriano ever begin to resemble his old self again? Is Slowey the next Greg Maddux in the making or the next Matt Guerrier (White Sox starting version)...? I think they expect more out of Liriano, but I can't imagine Baker and Slowey doing much better, overall. That and the health of the Tigers' pitching... Is Bonderman able to make a comeback? Can Galarraga repeat his success? The Dontrelle Willis Train Wreck... Zach Miner MIGHT easily be their third best starter right now, at this moment....then Robertson, who tailed off considerably and was never close to even the equivalent of Vazquez except for stretches of 06. INDIANS Can Lee repeat? Is Carmona the real deal or a bust? Is it time to give up on Jeremy Sowers yet? Is Aaron Laffey the next Jeremy Sowers? The Indians feature two of the biggest "sleepers" in the division....if Anthony Reyes and Scott Lewis can dominate and Carmona returns to form, they have the best starting rotation in the division, arguably. OTOH, Carmona, Sowers and Laffey continue to regress, Lee goes back to above average but not the best lefty in the AL and Lewis/Reyes are nowhere to be found, they could also be the worst rotation in the division...with Zach Jackson/Laffey/Sowers sinking the back end and prayers for a Jake Westbrook return floating into the Lake Erie air. Enter Anthony Reyes may be the most intriguing prospect for the rotation coming into the 2009 season. The Indians acquired him from St. Louis for essentially nothing, and we're talking about a #1 talent. St. Louis and Reyes couldn't seem to see eye-to-eye on anything, and both had seen enough of each other.Reyes was electric in his six-start stint as an Indians' starter, before being shelved with elbow strain during his final start of the season in August. Reyes has only two issues. The first is mechanics. Every Cardinals' writer that I talk to always tell me how much they love Reyes, and how his next pitch could be his last pitch. The other issue is Reyes' attitude. There was a bunch of speculation about why St. Louis gave up on him. Put that to rest. Reyes is a good, solid pitcher, who was just looking for communication from his management in St. Louis. They didn't give it to him. He loves it here in Cleveland, and look for big things from the kid, if he can stay healthy. Scott Lewis literally came out of nowhere to win the A.L. rookie pitcher of month for September. Lewis made four starts and won all four games. Lewis has been a model of consistency since the Indians drafted him out of Ohio State in 2004. Lewis is another one of those lefties in the mold of Laffey and Sowers. He tops out at 92 MPH, has great command, and has good makeup. This kid has great mechanics, and one of the best 12-6 curveballs I've seen in an Indians starter over the past few seasons. Lewis has had arm issues, including Tommy John surgery. If he's healthy, here is a kid who could be a good one. He sure proved that during his brief stint last season. I'm not sure 2009 is going to be his season in the rotation, but he's certainly made his presence known. http://mvn.com/tribereport/2008/10/the-cle...s-starting.html
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-v...o&type=lgns Good article from Jeff Passan with some more insight from various scouts about size of contract and size of Viciedo.
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Was there in 1993 and 1994, but things have changed dramatically since then. Now, not as many trades happen there as was the custom. But it's still fun to be around other people who work in the game...from minor league personnel to wanna-be Vin Scully's and Ernie Harwell's. Met Mike Veeck there, not quite the beloved figure his father was. I was interviewing for a number of positions with major and minor league teams. I made a stupid/silly mistake in my interview or I would have ended up working for the StL Cardinals...in the end, I had about 5 minor league offers (out of 10-12 interviews). I mean "real" job offers and not internship or unpaid positions. So I went off to work for the Augusta GreenJackets as Director of Stadium Operations and PR for two very interesting/fun/tiring seasons.
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Well, Danks ended the season as one of the 3-5 best lefties in all of baseball, so I hope but DON'T EXPECT for him to repeat that...I do think Floyd should be around the same numbers, maybe a bit higher ERA but more K's as he continues to gain confidence in both his fastball and curve.
