joejoesox

Tony Gwynn, Johan Santana, A-Rod, Soriano

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 2, 2008 -> 01:33 AM) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Agg3...o&type=lgns Griffey's increases out post-season chances. Without Griffey, we had a 54.9% chance to win the division and a 58.5% chance to make the playoffs. With Griffey, we have a 58.4% chance to win the division with a 63% shot at the playoffs. i'd love to see the calculations for those stats. lol

If Griffey turns out to be incapable of playing a prolonged (2+ month) CF, you could see his playing time cut into Thome's in the DH spot, this could possibly limit Thome's PA's enough to block his option If that happens, I want Griffster as our DH next year And I know I'm totally basing this off my manlove for Griffey and not on any stats or anything, it's good to be a fan

there still tension between jd & oc? that attempt to steal 3rd with 2 outs with JD at the dish was f***ing stupid

Griffey

christ I cannot tolerate listening to Lawrence Holmes, i had to turn the score off after listening to him praise the twins and cubbies *vomit*

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 08:17 AM) It's probably not the smartest thing to do in the middle of the season but JD seems like the perfect fit for 1B. He has the same long limb build as Derrick Lee. I can picture him being a vacuum at first. his first step is atrocious IMO, and that's just based off what i've seen in RF, imagine him at a position where reaction time is even more important

QUOTE (Baines3 @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 06:51 AM) Hopefully we can get things going in the right direction against Kansas City. at least we don't face Meche in this series, and doesn't paulie absolutely destroy Greinke? I might be thinking of Gobble their RP

our bullpen is terrible on the road, especially in the hump, they have no confidence after they hop on the plane

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 05:49 AM) You'd be right. Swisher is pretty awful with 2 strikes on him. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5937 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3747 perhaps what that tells us is Nick goes into a mindset where he is trying to do way too much rather than letting the game come to him, could be that he's trying to impress his new teammates, who knows.

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:50 PM) Out of all the years he's pitched, and the 83 career saves he has, you bring up the 23.0 IP he threw in KC? i refuse to put any more relavance in his closing stats with the astros and A's, than I would with them for the Royals, none of those teams contended i mention the royals as that was the last team he was a closer for

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:40 PM) As bad as Swish has been, Konerko isn't even on his level, which says just ho bad Paulie has been. one area, and this is just from my own observations.... i don't have the stats to support it (they are probably out there though) konerko seems better with two strikes than swisher does

if griffey is butchering plays in CF, costing us games out there ala Mackowiak, you'd have to think that Ozzie would stop putting him out there. even though our defense has been pretty bad lately, ozzie seems to put the best players defensively on the field at each position if he can help it (Uribe is probably better at 2B than Alexei, but you obviously need Lexi's bat in the lineup)

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:38 PM) That Dotel guy has never been in a pressure situation. Cook me a Sloppy Joe. Yeah the Royals were in contending, meaningful games. I forgot.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:08 PM) That's my Dad's pet peeve . Fielders being too lazy to get in front of the ball because a backhand play looks so pretty. It can look awkward trying to get your body in front it but with runners on its crucial to knock the ball down. Cabrera is f***ing garbage in the field, for every good play he makes, he dogs it on all the rest, remember yesterday when Paulie had to use a shovel to dig out that weakass throw to first? He's bad It's probably just my mind misremembering, but it felt like Uribe playing up the middle made our team better

do we even have a top 5 AL pitching staff anymore

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) Griffey Jr. was brought in to play CF, plain and simple. that doesn't have anything to do with my post, i know he was brought in to play CF. you missed the point i was making.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:38 PM) I turned it off after the Morneau home run and didn't look back. We can't win a close game up there anymore, the Twins are in the heads of the announcers, the players, and the fans. The bigger issue is our pitching and defense still sucks, and all the Griffey trade did, as much as I love Junior, was make both worse (although losing Masset isn't huge, but it won't help).. So much pressure on this offense right now. i agree 100%, unless Griffey is playing DH, or spelling Dye in RF against perhaps a pitcher Dye has huge problems with, he's a liability instead of a strength this year. that trade was pretty much pointless

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:33 PM) Another terrible turning point is Danks having a 1-2 count on a gift strike that was awarded after a HBP, so what does he do but WALK HIM. To leadoff the inning! That's just inexcusable. As I said in the game day thread, put the White Sox in that point and you know we're not reaching base. A lot of our pitchers have location issues when pitching in close games on the road. Remember when Logan was pitching in Baltimore earlier in the year, this is the same Boone Logan as I saw that night, and the scenario was identical. Close game, on the road, pressure situation

Logan is definitely done, I don't think anyone here would disagree with that statement. He is just terrible unless he has that sweeping slider vs. lefties, and can throw it for strikes The problem with why our pen was so terrible, well it was a few specific things 1. they were pitching scared. whether it was playing in the dome, and it being ridiculously loud or playing behind another teams fans, they were scared shi*less 2. the score was close, and they were afraid of the twins taking the lead. 3. as a result of pitching scared, they were falling behind hitters 1-0, 2-0. Thornton had Mauer at fu*king 3-1 for cryin out loud When every single guy you run out to the mound cannot locate his pitches, it's not a coincedence. They're all under the same mindset: Scared of pitching to contact, afraid of giving up the lead. We need guys in our bullpen who have been in pressure situations, and can throw strikes in close games on the road. The likes of Boone "Called up from Single A" Logan, Thornton, and Dotel are not the answer

you guys wanna know how bad our bullpen is right now, it's pretty easy to see it was 4-3 when the starter left the game it's 10-6 now. that's 7 runs. we're not winning any playoff series with these guys, sorry but it's not gonna happen

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:14 PM) Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was predictable after the Gardenhire meltdown. it was predictable to me when it was 4-0 and then morneau made it 4-3, once danks walked span in the 7th i knew it was over.

Boone Logan is a bad pitcher. He's just not good anymore.

at least there's no other single team in all of baseball that plays this poorly in the metrodome do the angels play the twins at all at the dome after tonight?

Boone almost throws the ball away on a pickoff Know why? Because he's scared. He's so f*cking nervous right now because he's a pussy just like everyone else in our bullpen except Jenks and Linebrink, and apparently Ehren