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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 12:17 PM) Kenny really f***ed up this deadline. He had no back up plan for Dunn and got played big time by the Nats and Rizzo (that will come back to bite them, but doesn't give Kenny a free pass). Now, he's a mess looking for another bat. What a f***ing joke. We've known for a fact, we needed a DH. KW was willing to let Ozzie have his way for the beginning of the season... And we all saw that this DH by committee thing was f***ing terrible. KW better get a legit upgrade at DH soon, or else I'm gonna nominate jordan4life's thread as thread of the year. Come on man, its not even over yet.

I still think there is a chance we get Dunn, last minute deal.

Berkman to Yankees official, /thread.

can we safely say nothing will happen by the deadline?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:57 AM) Give the Dodgers Morel in the deal, but no one better than that. it seems like you're trying to convince yourself to the trade

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:53 AM) did Manny get a NTC? Pretty sure Manny would want to come here.

I dont want Manny, and his power has dropped low, but he still is a great hitter, no doubt about it.

Since when do we have money?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:34 AM) That's a battle that the Rays usually win. Perfect scneario would be Rays get Manny, all the manny talk has Rizzo lower the price and we get Dunn.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:32 AM) FSN.com has an article that this is dead, is there a source saying it's still ongoing? Heyman and Rosenthal both said deal not dead yet.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:26 AM) That's where it all comes down to how desperate are the McCourts to get out of that $15 million, how much can KW offer, how much of it will be deferred and how much in "present dollars" (would the Sox give up) and would there be any prospects going to the Dodgers. They have to give the Dodgers SOMETHING, it can't just be a monetary transaction. Hell, give them two prospected and pay 2 months worth of 20M or whatever Dodgers owe him. Nothing more.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:23 AM) Wait, so his contract means he is done playing baseball in 2 months, but we still pay him $15 over the next 3 years to not even play? I'd also like an explanation how it works in his case, please.

Let's take Ramirez discussion into the Manny thread.

Rosenthal It's a halfcourt shot, but it's still in the air: Source says #WhiteSox intend to make one more run at Manny today.

Heyman tweets Manny would come to ChiSox but Dodgers want big prospects.

Heyman reports Menny would go to the Sox but Dodgers want big prospects back? Would you guys do it ?!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:06 AM) They've been asking for that the whole time. If anyone seriously thought that trading him to Washington would be the saving grace for the Jackson deal, they were really missing things. You don't have to complete that first trade if the 2nd part has any chance of falling through...you do it as a 3 way unless you're happy with the other guy as well. SO you're saying Kenny got EJax because he wanted him not to use him as a piece for Dunn?

Cowley - By the way, privately Sox felt that Hudson was a future No. 5 starter/middle reliever at best. Sorry Phillip, do some work.

Both Manny and Dunn deals are dead, Kenny working on a bat but scrambling according to Cowley.

This is quickly shaping up to be a disappointing deadline.

Cowley confirms it was Manny Ramirez, mystery bat.

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:31 AM) and there it was... the mystery bat I doubt we get an IMPACT hitter today Cowley confirms the shocker was indeed Manny. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chicago...-ramirez-073110

More Heyman: easy prediction, chisox will get a hitter, 1 way or other, whether its dunn or someone else. chisox are acting like edwin jackson is likely staying now. but #nats may love him more

Rays get Qualls for PTBNL and $$$.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 03:57 AM) Strangely enough you wonder if Viciedo's game last night will reinforce their belief in him, I cannot see how they can trade him away, he's a key piece to the puzzle especially when you consider we will lose PK next year most likely. We can't deal all of our future prospects... Anyways, only time will tell but I am praying that Coop said he could fix Ejax and we get a solid #4 who had success in the central last year. I don't see us dealing Ejax right now, nor do I think KW got him SOLELY to land Dunn, that would be stupid as he'd lose leverage at that stage. If he got him he must be willing to keep him. And secondly, who would we trade to get Brett Myers? We'd obviously need to get another starter at that point. I just don't see this happening all in the next 12 hrs (from the time I am writing this post) Someone in this thread earlier said that Myers stuff was bull.