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We've seen Robin say things after games, and then plans change. Go ahead. Start him on Thursday afternoon at Fenway.

2 under .500 for the first time, believe it or not.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 08:13 PM) So when do you fire Ventura? I'm serious when? If Fathers Day is part of the equation, they may not be there to fire him. Maybe Monday in Boston, or Friday morning in Chicago.

Lost 25 of 35 4-13 vs Cle and KC

QUOTE (ronkark @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) What the heck, I'll throw in something positive.. Love Ynoa's curveball. I give you credit for still watching.

I still can't lump Frazier with the Adams. And I don't think the NL/AL thing matters. The Sox just suck, and they bring out the suck in a lot of players. Anderson is next. Wait a month.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) What did Collins do? K on a change up

Collins up

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Ryan Bukvich available? Omogrosso?

A 29th birthday Shuck will never forget.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 06:16 PM) The FO deserves to get fired. So does most of the team staff. Clean house. If they fired Kenny, Buddy, Rick, Haber, and the coaching staff, who would be there to hire the people to hire? It's not a good situation right now. Train wreck.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 06:09 PM) Why doesn't MLB have the 10 run rule again? There should be an option to call it after 7. Save pen arms for the next day and not have to use position players, which is bad trend in baseball.

Ventura should pull the team off the field, forfeit, resign, and catch a plane to California. It's over. Not all of it is his fault, but it's over.

Ranaudo should start next time with Shields DLd to work on whatever- being a junk baller.

He would get to see his kids on Fathers Day. So that's something.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) KW was never this bad when he was GM. Hahn is great at contracts, but completely overmatched in every other aspect. He may have bad results, but Kenny is right there approving everything. And he sucked too past 2007. They both need to go, but it should start with Kenny.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) Hahn shouldn't be allowed to make another move. He's done enough damage to this org So you're positive this is all him and not his boss that he reports to? Nobody is harder on Hahn than you. And it's never lumping KW with him. Why is that?

Jerry Reinsdorf made this. Getting exactly what he deserves. Unfortunately the fans that care have to take it- or not.

Santana 1B Kipnis 2B Lindor SS Napoli DH Ramirez LF Uribe 3B Chisenhall RF Gomes C Naquin CF

Anderson SS Eaton RF Abreu 1B Cabrera LF Frazier 3B Navarro C Lawrie 2B Garcia DH Shuck CF

Nice to see Fisher come right out and go 2-4. Hope the hitting projections for him pan out and we have a good one here.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 08:49 AM) So 6-16 against KC, DET and CLE. Robin, please step into my office because you're f***ing fired! If they fall to 6-18 vs the other three and 5.5 out in the division, and just as much or more for the second wildcard, there really is no other move than to fire Ventura. The percentages for them to make the playoffs with or without him would be way down there, so they might as well give Renteria the keys as an interim.

Shields vs Salazar Could be the last time I start a game thread for the year, so force it for tomorrow...yeah right.

6pm local start tomorrow. Shadows should help the Sox hitters. Eyeroll