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Tanking is the wrong word. In baseball, a team is stupid if they don't assess where they are in a path to sustained success. If you're hoping for career years from your players and other teams to have injuries, you're going to be disappointed most years, like the White Sox.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:13 PM) It will never happen as long as Jerry is running things, but that is what I think they should do. It's the obvious thing to do if the Sox are ever going to be good again. Sure, they may keep the rolling rebuild going and hit on a playoff season once every 10-12 years, but sustained success will never happen with the Sox under their current way of doing things.

Fire sale? Yeah right.

Shields should change his number immediately. 25 needs to go on a one year sabbatical.

Well, that went well.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) If Hawk were calling this game there would be dead silence. Poor grandpa.

Another game just flying by.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) I would LOVE to be in the box with Hahn and Williams right now. I thought the same thing. What the hell must Hahn be thinking right now? It's so bad you just have to laugh.

The Sox weren't as good as the 23-10. They aren't as bad as the soon to be 6-20. But they're probably closer to the latter. Bad team, guys.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 07:30 PM) if they fire hahn and leave KW and RV in place I'm taking a long break from Sox baseball. Agreed on that. Just saying this organization needs an enema.

I've supported Hahn because he seems like a smart, good person. But the results speak for themselves.

It's on the agenda for the next meeting, but we're not calling him Big Game James.

Anderson lead off single

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20160608 Charlotte plays at 5:35, so if Anderson isn't in the lineup, well....

Eaton 9, Jackson 8, Abreu 3, Frazier 5, Cabrera 7, Rollins 6, Lawrie 4, Avila 2, Garcia DH Revere CF, Werth LF, Harper RF, Murphy DH, Ramos C, Zimmerman 1B, Rendon 3B, Drew 2B, Espinosa SS

Time change July 26 https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/740641290166095873

Lux is intriguing. He certainly has the baseball rat work ethic, and some good instruction from his uncle. From a scouting the person perspective, he's a good pick.

Carlos Correa made his debut a year ago tonight. Pretty nice stats for a first year. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/correca01.shtml Lindor was about week behind him... http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lindofr01.shtml

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) Stop it Different time. Different era. Different economic system. Different expectations. Different person. Different.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Years is an understatement. Try decades. Would you be OK with the White Sox tanking for 20 years? They're a weak division in 2008 from being 11 years in anyway, but I'll give them credit for winning that. Even then, this will be 8 years under an economic system and playoff format that should give every team opportunities to a path to sustained success.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 12:57 PM) I hope you know how to spend his retirement for him too. If he ever interviews for a managerial job after this season, I'll start a new thread and call myself out. We all know this will be it for him.

All you need to know about Robin Ventura is that he never aspired to be a manager, his teams have been terrible under his tenure, and he'll never interview for a managerial job ever again, let alone manage a big league game after this season. He's in a class by himself for the only franchise that would go this way for this long.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:22 AM) Glad you weren't a Pirates or Royals fan. I know this about the Pirates and Royals... I've seen the Royals win two World Series and lose two World Series in my lifetime. I've seen the Pirates win a World Series and make the postseason the last three years....something the White Sox have never done. Yes, they had years of suck under a economic system that killed them. But here we are in a better economic system and a double wildcard format, and they're actually doing well, and the Sox are trying to duplicate 2005-- and doing terribly.

Jays with 2 runs off Zimmermann in the first.

John Danks got released after four starts with a 7.25 ERA. Mat Latos over his last 7 starts has a 7.25 ERA.