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Quentin really needs to stop f***ing around with his stance. He looks like Carlos Gomez up there right now.

Rack 'em up. Omar sure is very sure handed.

I don't think that was a good throw by Mark, but Alexei looks totally out of position there. Paulie probably should have had that scoop too.

Kotsay's more than late on these pitches Harden is leaving up.

Rios doesn't go deep enough, 1 down.

Ducks on the pond for Rios.

Harden's throwing moderately hard so far. Got it up to 93. Walks Pierre though.

Wow, he got out of it, nice. They did manage to get him to throw 33 pitches though...

Watch Arias get a hit now.

Well this certainly looks bad.

Carlos is so bad in RF.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Good discussion, guys. As for our career numbers against Harden, this is no longer the Harden of old. Let's get to him. His fastball velocity's dropped 4 miles since he was last dominant in 2008.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 04:12 PM) It's somewhat impressive how much UZR agrees with you. It disagrees on Konerko being above average, thinks the same about Kostay in the OF, Teahen and Quentin have been the real weak points. Alexei slightly above average, Beckham sitting basically at average, Pierre and Rios tearing it up. Konerko's been a very average 1B throughout his career. I think that -4.5 is going to increase once the season goes along.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Wbat ptcher aside from Halladay who is doing well isn't due for a sharp regression? Consistency isn't exactly something many big leaguers have nowadays. I think Garland deserves credit. When I mean sharp, I mean two runs in the ERA sharp. I don't think many pitchers other than Livan Hernandez are due for a surprise that big.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Yeah, I'm not going to go nuts with the All-Star ballots trying to get Alexei Ramirez, Orlando Cabrera, Darin Erstad or AJ Pierzynski into the All-Star game. Very few Sox players have been the best at their respective position over the years and when they are -- Quentin in '08 and Rios this year -- there's usually a reason not to get amped about getting them in. (ie: not on the ballot and general malaise towards the baseball season) I don't think I have ever voted all White Sox on the all-star ballot. Not recently at least. I might have done that in 06, but I think I don't need to defend myself about why I did it.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 04:15 PM) I just dont understand why the fanbase can come out for the final vote which is basically a back-up with no guarantee of actual playing time, but not for one of our guys to actually start the game? What's the issue? Apathy? Until the field can be narrowed down for only a few guys for one spot we wont vote? (hint, hint, that's one of the changes I want for the normal ballot) Maybe we're just not THAT biased.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) Also it seems like the White Sox just don't have a lot of fans. You're saying the Rangers and Brewers stuff the boxes all the time. We Sox fans are the nerdy kind on a message board who call for stuffing (this thread included) and can barely crack a top 15 with the votes, what does that say about the fanbase? (P.S. I do realize the irony of me saying we dont have enough fans while just having said i wont vote....) We can't call for stuffing, our outlet isn't large enough. However, if Brooks Boyer does it, it'll show results.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 03:37 PM) I'll probably never vote on another all-star ballot until the MLB changes the rules or the name of the game....They are beyond ridiculous. The game can't be "for the fans", and "count"... You gotta choose one or the other. Agreed. But you have a chance to make it right by putting the right people in the game. This way, the fans get the best game and the best league wins the game.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) For 2 teams. But right now, we don't know who those two teams will be. Any division leader could be one of those two teams, along with a lot of second place teams. I think it is a very important matter to at least half the teams in baseball.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 03:13 PM) Since 1901 there have only been 9 occurrences of a starting pitcher finishing the year with and ERA under 2.50 and a WHIP north of 1.300. The last time it happened was 1942 when Hal Newhouser put up a 2.45 ERA and a 1.367 WHIP all other occurrences took place prior to 1920. 1.250 WHIP: 1952, Mike Garcia. 16 other occurances, 1 in the 40's all others prior to 1920 The highest WHIP with an ERA of 2.40 or under in modern baseball was Chuck Finley in 1990 who had a 2.40 ERA and 1.233 WHIP. Beyond Finley in '90 we have to go all the way down to the 1.196 WHIP and 2.27 ERA Peavy put up in 2004. Man, you sure had some fun with Baseball-Reference didn't you? Good stuff.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Only if you make the world series. Which happens to be the most important series of the season...

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 02:31 PM) Curtis Granderson has been hurt. Brett Gardner... really?? And who the hell is Julio Borbon? He's hitting .236. He was pretty good in a short stint with them last year though. I think the Rangers are making the fans stuff the ballot boxes, to the point where they get a prize for stuffing it a lot. Kind of like what the Brewers have been doing. How do you think Rickie Weeks is in the top 5 in 2B voting? I think the Phillies might be doing something similar. That kind of stuff really pisses me off, since this game actually counts for something.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 02:31 PM) Sox players are never really mentioned or, hell, noticed nationally. Even when Q was going apes*** in 2008... rarely heard a blurb about him until he fought his bat and the bat won. This isn't surprising, but it is unfortunate I think Q would have started had he been on the damn ballot. I had to write him in that year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 31, 2010 -> 11:19 PM) That's just unfair saying he's only been "lucky." Totally unfair. Check some of his lines in the games he's pitched. I guess anytime the NL beats an AL team it's just "luck." Let's see it on the field, White Sox. Beat the s*** out of this inferior league. Sox/Cubs series is deadlocked all time I believe. This year's AL-NL is deadlocked. It's only luck when Garland wins and only bad luck when we lose to an NL team. This has nothing to do with NL/AL matchups. This is just saying that Jon Garland is due for a sharp, sharp regression sometime soon and that what he's put up thus far has been quite the fluke (ie luck). Plus, do you know any other starting pitchers with a ERA in the low 2s with a 1.33 WHIP? I don't.

lol @ Carcillo.