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lol we gave up our #6 prospect for a guy who hasn't hit 1 WAR in 2 years. Terrible.

All depends on what we gave up. I'm fine with a lottery ticket like Mazara but we shouldn't have to give up much.

I just shuddered at thinking about Clint Frazier ever touching the OF on a regular basis. Happ is also probably terrible until they unjuice the ball. That being said, the Yankees would probably give them up for next to nothing for financial flexibility to sign Cole.

Agreed. I'm ok with him assuming we get him on a cheaper deal. There's no reason to go after him instead of Castellanos unless we get a nice discount. I really hope it's not anything over $60 million over 4 years.

He makes hard contact and he makes hard contact a lot. The problem is that his launch angle was low last year which is why he probably hit .240. His expected BA was .280. He was a slightly above average hitter last year but if he had some luck he could have been 20% above league average. Abreu has a similar profile as a hitter in that he hits the ball hard but a lot of those are on the ground.

Ozuna's defensive stats look fine. I keep hearing about how he's terrible and he can't throw anymore. But UZR and DRS graded his arm and overall defense really well in 2019. If his arm is an issue, then having him in RF will be rough.

I really like Marquez. Take him out of Coors and he's got TOR numbers.

The thing is that pitchers are so bad at hitting that those numbers give him something around 0.5-1 WAR of value as a hitter.

Rosenthal's tweet made it seem like just 1. Guess 4 makes more sense.

They're not even in the same neighborhood. Bundy was actually worth 2.5 WAR last year and has solid peripherals. If all it took was some no name RHP propsect I would have definitely considered.

If that's all it took, I would have been ok with us taking a chance on him.

Some of Bumgarner's value comes from the fact he can hit well as a pitcher. We'd get nothing from that. Also I'm sure he would prefer to stay in the NL so he can hit.

I'm ok with us getting Ryu on a shorter deal. Just hope he doesn't get hurt and gives you at least 150 IPs a year. Outside of August he was really good last year.

FWIW, Gio and Bumgarner had very similar batted ball profiles last year. I don't think the fly balls are the problem. It's that Bumgarner gives up hard hit balls. He was bottom 15% in exit velo and hard hit %. I'm ok with Bumgarner assuming they get a good deal, but 4 years at 80 to 100 for a guy who will most likely own an FIP in the 4.5s is not worth it.

If you sign Bumgarner and Manfred decides to unjuice the ball, then you'll get lucky.

Can't wait for Madbum to yell at them when they make an error or celebrate a home run for too long.

This is hilarious. Last year we got Manny's friends and family to lure him to Chicago but couldn't pony up the money. This year we give the best offer but Wheeler preferred family over money. This is so White Sox.

I'd rather have Kyle Gibson for 3 years and 30 than what Hamels got.

He was actually pretty good vs. LHP last year. His career splits vs. lefties actually isn't completely atrocious either.

I don't know if you want to lead the league in change up velocity. You'd think the slower the better.

I just now realized the thread title is referring to a Yung Joc song...nice job @bmags

I'm guessing the hope for the FO is Wheeler and Hamels.

One thing to consider is that Joc is absolutely useless vs. lefties. You have to platoon him, whereas Calhoun's splits are much more balanced. That being said, Joc is a much better hitter.

I can easily see Grandal being a 4-5 win player for the next 2 years. This is a huge get and great market value if he declines at a reasonable pace.

No I think you can still split Grandal between DH and C. He's not getting any younger.