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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He technically had two years of control and wasn’t scheduled to make ~$20M per year. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Crochet with Burger or Sheets for one year of Manaea would be a disgusting overpay. And why does it make more sense to address our known needs at the trade deadline than right now? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He made that dumb grin over a possible trade for a rental pitcher with the A’s? I don’t buy it, he was definitely hinting at something more impactful IMO. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If we don’t add anyone, then he’s the primary DH by default. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’m hoping Rick does and realizes that his offseason sucks a fat you know what so far and that he better nut up and land Conforto. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
When have they told us the opposite? When they told us they wanted to add power, add better left-handed balance, and improve the defense? Show me how they’ve addressed those needs so far this offseason. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And just to be fair, I fully agree that the bullpen needed to be addressed and I actually like both RP moves in isolation. But if those are the only moves we make then it’s a complete failure on Hahn’s part. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
How about you don’t pick up Kimbrel’s option and don’t sign Leury to a ridiculous three year extension? Instead use Romy in the UT role. That’s $20.7M in savings right there if you assume a league minimum guy replaces Craig. And instead of giving Gravemen $8M for three years, go trade Jake Burger for a cost controlled reliever from a rebuilding team. There are ways to improve the bullpen and bench without spending $30M in free agency. And yes, I’m aware that Conforto isn’t just a 2022 investment. However, Gravemen & Leury’s salaries alone would cover $13.5M of Conforto’s 2023 & 2024 salary. Replacing Harrison after the 2022 season with a pr-arb guy saves another ~$5M. And Hendriks has a $0M CBT payroll figure come 2024 given the structure of his deal. Point is we can get pretty close right there and can always move guys as needed to free up the rest. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Fully agree…we may be capped out at the moment, but I find it impossible to believe Jerry told Hahn to temporarily go over budget while he looks to move Kimbrel. What happens if he gets injured? Do we have to trade one of our good players then? Would never happen in a million years. If anything, Hahn will dump Kimbrel and claim the savings will be used for mid-season additions. You know, why address known weaknesses in the offseason when you can a premium to address those same needs at the deadline. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
When has Jerry ever allowed Hahn to go over budget with the caveat he needs to move a player later? That would be completely unprecedented territory and make the decision to pick up Kimbrel’s option in the first place even more nonsensical. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Fucking gross…Rick Hahn should be fired tomorrow if this is reflective of a championship window offseason. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There are other ways to buy prospects though. My point is if the market doesn’t view Kimbrel as being worth at least $16M on a one year deal then you’re destroying value by picking up his option. Now, if you’re saying there are teams who think he’s that valuable but simply can’t afford to fit his salary into their budget and are willing to give up a prospect in exchange for cash considerations then maybe you can still come out ahead. But man, I hate the concept of picking up an option and basically being forced to eat some money to move said player. Just seems too risky and bad process overall. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Then it was a massive mistake to pick up that option. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’ll be honest, if we’re trying to trade a $16M catcher that only a few teams can afford and are specifically looking for a young catcher in return then we’re really going to struggle to get a trade down. Very few organizations have to soon-to-be-ready MLB catchers that are readily expendable. -
It’s going to be painful watching him overused.
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Has there been a single rumor / connection to the Red Sox? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Absolute insanity we gave Leury a three year deal at a player friendly rate. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So you think aren’t interested at all then? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
They brought Nick Ciuffo in on a minor league deal, but I’m sure we’re all hoping for something better. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Cubs get Smyly -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You guys underestimate Boras, he’s a good quality dude once you get to know him -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
No idea who this is, but claiming Rangers involved and speculates White Sox -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Well sure, but maybe he felt compelled to do us a solid after not extending Carlos a QO -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Hopefully that means he’s already got a deal in place with the Sox and they’re just waiting for Hahn to free up a roster spot by trading Kimbrel ? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It’s remarkable there are basically no rumors on Conforto. Like you’d think Boras would be out there negotiating through the media.
