Everything posted by Chicago White Sox
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Winter Meetings Thread
Sounds like more fun than I’m having right now watching MLB Network
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Cody Bellinger to the Cubs
What SP2 do you think they are getting? I’ve heard very differently on what their plan is to spend. One of the big four SS, a CF like Bellinger, and a mid rotation SP like Taillon and I actually have a really good source on this.
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2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread
Pessimistic me says Hahn clears the payroll needed to sign an OF right after all the LH options are gone and he goes with a Sheets/RH FA platoon for LF.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Alright boys, do we think Rick makes a move tonight? Gun to head I say ‘no’, but hope he proves me wrong.
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Winter Meetings Thread
What trade are you referring to?
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2023 Draft Lottery - 7:30CT Dec 6
We’re getting the 6th spot or I say we permaban Parkman as a sacrifice to the baseball gods.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Give us the goods Greek-konerko! Need specific teams and players coming back so I can pretend Hahn will actually do something this week other than make stupid one-liners.
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Winter Meetings Thread
So true. The NFL is absolute blast and that’s what the MLB needs to get to instead of elongated game of chicken between owners & players that happens every other year.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Yes of course
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Winter Meetings Thread
Holy s%*# do we need a rumor.
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White Sox interested in Athletics Catcher Sean Murphy
The A’s apparently want major leaguers for Murphy. That does open up the possibility of a Vaughn led package and a Eloy/Grandal/Sheets/Burger DH/1B monstrosity ?
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Winter Meetings Thread
I love your optimism but Hahn sounds like he’s as desperate and transparent as a homeless guy asking for five bucks and telling you it’s going towards crack. I truly believe Jerry is cutting back because of a lack of playoff revenue from last season and that funds will very tight.
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Winter Meetings Thread
My god, he used the Dutch Oven as an example of what?
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Winter Meetings Thread
Just said that Gavin Sheets is a potential OF option. Wouldn’t be that big of a deal except for the fact he did this same song & dance last year and then actually went with the insane plan that back-fired as expected.
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Winter Meetings Thread
He made a very lawyery statement on how we have some prospects who are close to helping or “on the precipice of contributing” and others that are father away. Combine that with him saying he’s open to a blockbuster trade and it’s very clear that anyone that can’t help in 2023 is on the table. Seems like it may be a classic White Sox “all-in” year without the money as usual (lol) and Montgomery is the only prospect who can headline a true blockbuster.
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Fire Rick Hahn
Of course Jerry is at the root of it all, but if your owner is unwilling to spend on big-time free agents then reprioritize your money towards player development, analytics, pro scouting, the training staff, etc. We have been below average in almost every function under Rick since Herm left. At some point, you can’t keep using the owner’s aversion to risk as an excuse and need to adjust your plan. Hahn has completely failed in that regard IMO.
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Liam Hendriks coming up in trade discussions
Exactly.
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Liam Hendriks coming up in trade discussions
His contract isn’t bad unless the 2022 version of Yoan is here to stay. He just needs to be a 3 win player to more or less to break-even and that should be our minimum expectation. I’ll keep saying it, but Grifol and this new staff will help him more than anyone.
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Fire Rick Hahn
What I hate about Rick is it’s like he doesn’t get this mess is all his fault. When the rebuild started, instead of going for high-end talent he drafted a bunch of high floor college guys who profiled as corner IF/OF types. Perhaps that’s because he was concerned about his player development system not turning young athletic prospects into quality major leaguers. Regardless, he failed to build a pipeline of cheap talent despite multiple years of top 15 picks. That is the biggest single reason we’re in this spot where we’re capped out and having to trade from our major league roster to fill needs. Look at the Phillies for example. When we were pursuing Machado & Harper, they were a year ahead of us in terms of their rebuild. Since then, the bulk of their first wave of prospects ultimately failed whereas the bulk of our high profile guys mostly worked out. However, despite those shortfalls, the Phillies were in the World Series last October while we were still dreaming about all those promised parades. The reason for this? The Phillies were able to go out and add impact talent in free agency. Harper, Wheeler, Schwarber, and Castellanos were all signed to contracts that would have been franchise records in addition to the Realmuto extension. And guess what? Those guys carried their team and they’ve been able to supplement them with enough cheap above replacement level players from their farm. Meanwhile, the Sox have had to allocate the bulk of their money to relievers and role players because the well completely dried up as soon as the first wave of talent was called up. Hahn essentially kicked off a rebuild with several great trades and an awesome Robert signing, but completely failed in every element after that. It’s absolutely mind-boggling how bad his mismanaged this thing.
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Winter Meetings Thread
See above. Colas has claim on exclusive left-handed savage role.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Hahn hates young left-handed savages unfortunately.
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Liam Hendriks coming up in trade discussions
I think you’d have to and then look to move some of your other IF prospects for help elsewhere.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Really feels like Hahn is going to trade Montgomery.
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Liam Hendriks coming up in trade discussions
If you can land a legit young player who can help you at a position of need while also freeing up payroll space, you 100% deal Hendriks. Graveman or Lopez take over as closer. Sign someone cheap with upside like Alex Reyes to add to the bullpen mix. I 100% agree it feels wrong, but the path to a division title requires creativity and that means selling high on a guy who headlines our only area with some level of depth.
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Winter Meetings Thread
Colson is a legit blue chip prospect and I’d argue that Ramos is a 50 FV / fringe top 100 prospect. Moving those guys would destroy an already weak system, but are the only two other than than Colas who could headline anything of real value.