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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Dodgers & Yankees were the other two teams I was thinking of, but don’t see what starting pitchers they have that would also be expendable. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Good call, but don’t see them having any interest in Heuer. Maybe Seattle? Marco Gonzalez is probably more available than most of the other rumored names. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
?...no idea what team he is referring to. Feels like we always trade with Texas, but they don’t have anyone left that fills the bill. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Exactly. Lucas will potentially be leaving money on the table by agreeing to an extension, but he locks in a sizable guarantee to protect himself in the event of injury and would still hit free agency at 31 with a five year deal. I think it’s something he would go for, but obviously there is a trade-off there and if healthy he’s probably not maximizing his earnings. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’d be ok with moving Heuer, but I struggle with what team would take him back as an important piece of a trade. The Reds potentially? -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So why do any of these pitchers expect below market extensions if the offers are so bad? ? -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If we wants to maximize his earnings, then he won’t sign an extension. If he wants to lock in some guaranteed money because of the risk of injury then he’ll take less than market. That’s how these things work. I’m sure no-one would say Nola’s deal was bad if he ended up getting and missing time. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lucas Giolito isn’t a free agent. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This is not true. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Based on what? -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why are you using a 3B as comp for a SP? That is not how these things work. Pitchers are naturally far more risky and that’s factored into the price of an extension, hence why the Nola deal plus some markup makes the most sense. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
In what world does a pitcher get paid market rates for signing an extension three years prior to free agency? -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You don’t get market value when you sign an extension three years prior to free agency. And as I showed you before, the best comp is Nola’s 5/$61M extension. Lucas getting 5/$75M would represent a 23% increase. It’s incredibly unlikely he’d get more than $75M over five years. -
Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????
Chicago White Sox replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That’s too rich. I think he ultimately agrees to something around 5/$75M.
