Chicago White Sox

100% agree. Foles was a horrible move from the get-go and this only cements that. And I would have loved to gamble on Winston on a one year deal instead of Dalton, but I’m assuming that wasn’t possible. Personally, short of a Wilson or Winston trade, I’m just glad we’re not committing multiple years or major assets to a B or C tier option.

I don’t think you realize that I’m complete Pace hater and have zero faith in him. That being said, I just don’t think giving Andy Dalton $10M is the end of the world IF we draft a QB. If Wilson or Watson weren’t available, what would you have done exactly?

Because Dalton is likely better than Foles. If you’re trying to make the playoffs next year with a rookie QB in the mix, I’d rather have Andy for 5 to 6 games as the starter and then as my depth / insurance policy option than Foles. Personally, I think that’s worth $10M. Some of you guys are acting like we just signed Mike Glennon to a 3/$45M deal here, when in reality this isn’t a lot of money given how fucked we currently are at the QB position. And as for Foles, the trade for him last year was a terrible move by Pace, but we don’t have to accept him as a viable option just because he is under contract and has dead cap hit if moved. He failed last year in this system under this coaching staff and has lost the benefit of doubt going forward. The focus now becomes who we get in the draft and if Pace doesn’t come out of the draft with one of the top five prospects then he clearly has failed and signing Dalton will prove to be a total waste.

It’s only weird if you view Dalton & Foles as being interchangeable, but I can totally see why Pace might not feel that way. Again, I’m not a huge fan of this move in isolation and obviously it’s a huge letdown vs. a possible Wilson addition, but I will wait and see what the rest of their plan is for the offseason before I totally lose my shit. As long as they land one of the big QB prospects (which is clearly not a guarantee), I’ll be ok with this move.

Because my view is Dalton is likely better than Foles and that Foles will be gone as soon as we draft a QB.

Mitch can’t reliably pass beyond 10 yards and a better line wouldn’t change that.

Look, I didn’t get to watch Dalton enough last year to know what he has left in the tank. What I do know is Foles isn’t the answer and I wouldn’t expect Pace to roll with him as his placeholder QB with his career on the line. I also think if we get Mac Jones we’re in need of a veteran who only needs to start 5 to 6 games before handing the reigns over. Call it a poor use or resources or poor scouting, but if Dalton is better than Foles (and the guy I saw two years ago clearly was) then it’s worth the money given the defense we have in place. It’s probably a long-shot to work, but it’s not going to fuck up our future at least which is my primary fear with Pace in charge.

Why does Andy Dalton stop them from drafting a QB in the 1st?

Did Foles look the part last year though? I get he was intended to be that guy, but in all honesty he failed last year and allowed Mitch Trubisky to regain his job. Whether you like Dalton or not as a cheap placeholder, Foles most certainly wasn’t the answer.

The Bears are 100% drafting a QB in the draft, so for now this remains a TBD from my perspective. Don’t get me wrong, at face value this move is completely underwhelming, but if we end up with Jones or Lance then Dalton is a perfectly fine bridge guy IMO. Also, we need to see what ends up happening with Williams as his addition plus one of those QB prospects would be a passable alternative to trading a ton of assets for Wilson.

I think there are always plenty of teams in need of QBs, but it’s a far bigger price to take a B tier QB prospect if you’re passing on a cornerstone tackle, EDGE, or CB. That’s why five QBs in the top 10 is mostly unprecedented. Also, I’m not suggesting Jones or Lance falls to 20 but closer to 15. Honestly, the only reason I point this out is going up 10 picks in the 1st is going to require a significant amount of draft capital while going up five spots should much more reasonable. This is just me speculating of course and watch all five go in the first 10 picks and then the Bears having to gamble on someone like Trask or Newman in the 2nd or 3rd.

There appears to be a fuckton of smoke at the moment...lol

Based on some speculation I’ve seen, I’d wager it’s similar to Eloy’s eight year deal if it gets done.

Appreciate it Pal!

Four QBs went in the top 10 in 2018 and Lamar Jackson didn’t go until 32. It’s very clear there are three A tier QB prospects in this draft, but Lance & Jones are a tier below and aren’t guarantees to go top ten IMO. I think one will and the other will fall to the middle of the 1st.

Do they have an agreement in place now?

Is it on MLBTV?

I have a feeling we’re all going to feel real shitty at the All-Star break when we could of had Joe Musgrove and instead got a fat Yogurt Sanchez plus the buy-outs for Nate Jones & Welington Castillo paid for by the Rangers.

How are you watching?

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Oh trust me, I love the discussion, just becoming a bit annoyed with the dude as he claimed he wasn’t in it for the attention and then literally spends hours on end talking about the haters and bragging about everything he had first. This time he didn’t have it first if it does materialize.

If they trade A-Rob then they really need to add two legit WRs IMO. I love Mooney but I don’t ever see him becoming a #1 WR. This draft is loaded though so we should be able to land a decent one in the 2nd or 3rd if we hold onto those picks.

Apparently based on this tweet. Al’s is the king of the tweet & delete but then acknowledges it for some odd reason. Also, not trying to doubt his connections, but if an extension gets announced this week with Vaughn, it’s Harold and not Al’s Beef who deserves the credit. Al’s been money on a lot of things this offseason, but he has been doubting a Vaughn extension for most of the offseason.