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QUOTE (ron883 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 03:00 PM) He posts here all the time. He changed his name to chiliman or w/e. you can see him quoted as "Joecoolman24" in the thread posted in OP. He needed to dissociate himself with the nickname butcher reputation Wait, Chilihead is Joecoolman24?

I predict that all predictions will fail. Including my prediction of all predictions failing. Meaning my prediction is logically impossible and the universe will likely implode at the conclusion of tonight's game.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 12:15 PM) back in the summer, they wanted (DV) for some reason the gm like DV and was hoping for i beleive a pitcher...... it was i believe talk about beckham.... i know according to mlb.com sea has a interesting group of pitchers, a cat name tyler and some of positon player in the high teens in their ranking. but hey what the hell do i know. The rumor was that they offered Ackley for him, and Hahn countered with Franklin.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Ha I was calling him Blowasavio from the moment they installed him as closer! I didn't know other people were calling him that, I don't listen to the radio unless the game is on or if I see someone here talk about a Sox interview upcoming, then I'll turn it on if I have time. Not that I have anything against Bruuuuuuuuuce but I was there first. Although it's obvious, blatantly obvious. Also you guys are haters. YOU'RE the hater. Because you're a hate hater. I hate hate haters.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2014 -> 09:22 PM) So if we sign this guy it's one less hole. We'll have him, A. Garcia and Eaton in the outfield with DeAza or Danks as the fourth outfielder. Viciedo has to be let go or traded for scraps. The key is to sign this guy as soon as we're allowed to. Abreu is working out; add this young man and at least our outfield is set. I wouldn't expect this guy to be any better than Viciedo out of the gate, based on his age and numbers in Cuba. He seems like he'll need some time in the minors; I'd look at him like an advanced prospect.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:49 AM) MAN .... I am old fart who barely knows how to use a stupid cell phone. now you want me to know about more stats.......... have pity. Essentially, linear weights stats assign a run value to each offensive event based on the average amount of runs it will contribute (based on changes in run expectancy from one base/out state to another). So you should use them in two situations: 1. When you want to find out who is more valuable overall when comparing different types of players (just like you asked), and 2. When you want to find out who is more valuable when comparing players ACROSS context. So like if you want to compare Adrian Beltre to Chase Headley, and you know the numbers are going to be off because Texas is a bandbox and Petco kills offense, and plus Adrian Beltre is in a way better lineup for RBIs.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:37 AM) you brought up sometime intersesting...... I am going to need some help here. who helps out your team more .... a player who hit 20-30 hrs, avg 175-225, k about 190 a yr. or a player who hits 300 avg, hit>k 150 / 70 and less than 10 homers? This question is why we have linear weights! Just compare those guy's wOBA or wRC+ to see who contributes more.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:38 AM) Now, if we started calling Abreu "The Canyonero," I would wholeheartedly support it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) El Canon/The Cannon thing isn't really catching on, either. Yeah, especially since Hawk can't decide how he wants to pronounce it. I think he needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:16 AM) Why would we have traded for him then when we already had four outfielders, and DeAza seemed superfluous at the time? I think my theory at the time was something like "Viciedo sucks you guys," which has turned out to be accurate, more or less. I really thought a De Aza/Tabata platoon would combine for an awesome #2 or #5 hitter.

I thought my Felipe "Soggy Burrito" Paulino would have garnered more hatred, but I threw it out there in a gamethread during a Felipe Paulino start, so no one was paying attention.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) For a nine million dollar commitment? No thanks. Yeah, a this point, I don't make this move. Pre-season, before he had a bad start, I probably would have.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) Just tell him you are a professional too. A professional [whatever it is you are doing], which makes you equally qualified to judge minor league systems. This is the best response so far.

Didn't I get railed for suggesting we get this guy when the Pirates put him on the block near the beginning of the season? I think even wite hated that idea.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 07:46 AM) (I did too) I'm going to start using Blowasavio though.

TUC is absolutely Bruce Levine.

I vote all

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) I thought I remember him be known for his defense before he started hitting everything a couple years ago. I really hope he sticks someone with the big club. It is fun to see a guy that has been in our minors come up and actually succeed. It has been awhile it feels like Strangely, he's still young for his level.

Here's an article today that contextualizes "arm holds:" http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-value-o...-using-his-arm/ Those can result from throw or non-throws. It basically just goes off the result of the base runner, which is an imperfect but pretty good proxy, especially over a large sample.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 09:41 AM) Because their best prospect is a catcher and Grandal is expendable and hasn't been great. Why is he expendable? Just because you have a talent surplus doesn't make your surplus worthless. Even if they lose some leverage from having a perceived window to needing to deal him (which is debatable with the presence of any prospect of Hedges' quality), the market price is still going to be determined by the number of suitors and how motivated those suitors would be. LOTS of teams will want a 25 year-old C that has put of 3.1 fWAR over his first 500 PA.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) Same logic people think anyone can take Beckham for nothing. Similar career pattern. Beckham for a few more years; but is having a better year this year. Lol the "for a few more years" part is everything.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) I don't know if Abreu/Nieto/Remaining Cubans would like it if Viciedo or Alexei were traded. You definitely don't want to make Abreu upset Idk why we assume that we have to retain every Cuban player we have in order to keep Abreu content. Does he even like them? I mean they're just people. Like if I went to a job abroad somewhere and there were 5 American dudes, I'd feel like it would help me make my transition. But then if I was there for a few months and one of those dudes got fired, I don't think it would be a big deal. It's not like they'd be my childhood best friends or anything.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 08:23 AM) At least be consistent. If Beckham is worth a zero value failed prospect, we should be able to get Grandal for a Jared Mitchell or Erik Johnson (were he to have a surgery to 2). Grandal has had less than 500 ML PA, and only have of them have been bad. And really, not THAT bad -- he's accumulated 3.1 fWAR over those 500PA, which equates to a very decent seasons, and is better than any stretch of 500 PA in Beckham's career. Why do we think we can get Grandal for cheap?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 08:23 AM) Thing is, it wasn't just his last 5-6 starts, it's been all season, as evidence by the 11 QS. He's been "feast or famine" all year. In an eventual Sale-FA-Q-Rodon-Danks rotation he'd be the 5th starter and I'd take a guy that can give you 6/3 the majority of the time all day......But that said, if they can get back another starter I'm not apposed to trading him. I also don't see what the problem is in having 4 lefties in the rotation. I can't find the stats, but are players typically better vs RHP or LHP? Well, right-handed batters are between 2 and 3 times more common. The idea is that you want to be able to give teams a different look each night, but I'm not aware of any research that has actually attempted to confirm an effect there. To me, I think a good mix is one of those things that's nice to have, but absolutely should not get in the way of getting the 5 best starters you can get, regardless of arm side.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) I completely disagree with this. Eaton will be on and off the DL during much of his career IMO. He's already hit the DL enough at a young enough age, and what would make you think he'll become generally healthier as he gets older? He plays a premium position and does so with a hard style of play that lends itself to constant minor injuries. Asking him to save his body or whatever and not play as hard, not use his speed, etc. just devalues his game to the point where you don't care much about him anymore. I said prior to the offseason that I'd be happy if Eaton became kind of like a poor man's Pods offensively overall with much better D in the field. A couple people thought that was stupid, blah blah blah Eaton is so great and so much better and all that crap. I stick to that. We're not getting a perfect world scenario with this guy IMO, he's probably going to be hurt a lot and if we can get 5 good years out of him we will have done well. What I meant by that line was that the injuries he's suffered this year aren't injuries that are likely to have lasting effects on his ability. Like, if he had bad hamstrings or something.