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Good lord. What a boon that would be.

Whoever distinguishes themselves early. That’s what I mean. There is space for everyone.

We literally were not allowed to spend enough money to get them. I’m sure we would have had interest if we could have.

That’s what I thought, I was about to go on a research expedition lol

I’m confused.

Well he’s literally not even striding so it’s definitely some kind of drill and not his actual swing.

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While it’s certainly plausible, this is a weird claim to make given that none of us have any knowledge at all about how well the Sox group sales and corporate partnerships departments are performing.

The Phillies are GOING to get at least one of these guys. If you think the Yankees have the appetite for another, it’s going to be an uphill battle. I agree that we will definitely be in the mix but ultimately unwilling to outbid the more desireable destinations by enough to get the win. We will see though. It’s a real possibility

When you consider that Eloy will be up in April and Adolfo will miss the first few months, I don’t think the logjam is really that bad. Also there are several guys at the top level that could be dropped if it gets that way.

Pache? Riley? Waters?

I just think the dude needs a better haircut. He’s putting a lot of effort in and it really is not working out.

lol dude COME ON

Yeah no big money RPs. Dudes that slipped through the cracks and will sign a desperation one year deal and be traded at the deadline? Sure. Multiyear free agent RPs are the likeliest busts in the high bust game of free agency. And we absolutely need to sort through our fringe arms next year

I agree. And I am almost always on the progressive side of stuff like this. I got ripped a bit on fangraphs for thinking the Aguilar situation was massively overblown. I mean, Aguilar WAS in the way, everyone who has ever played first has been coached not to cover like that, because it leads to dangerous situations. I’m not saying that machado should have kicked him, but if he actually wanted to hurt him he would have spiked him, which would have required less effort and likely could have actually looked like an accident. To me, that kick, while Ill-advised, was more like a hard tag on a runner who is dicking around with the pitcher on the basepaths, or an inside fastball to push a guy off the plate than it is like an intentional beaning or something. At some point you have to be physical to assert your right to the space you need to be. I wouldn’t have done it, and I get why the players involved are angry, but I think that’s about as far as this one should have gone. Absolutely no way I’m changing my opinion of signing the guy over this.

If you’ve watched any of the Sox broadcasts or followed any of their social media the last two years, you cannot possibly have missed that we are rebuilding. The broadcasters talk about i so much that it feels awkwardly forced. They produce more features about the game than about the game replays.

If feels like we’ve been there since it started.

No one is calling anyone a bad fan. It’s just frustrating that several posters around here continually pretend like the team isn’t rebuilding. This thread title is absurd. Why would someone “fall on the sword” because the team’s record was bad? It’s meatball nonsense. Everyone that wants to see the front office literally murdered in public — don’t worry, this HAS to be their last chance. But it isn’t over yet, so you’re gonna have to let them finish. It does not make sense to murder their families and change course now, everything would be for naught.

Alex Guerrero has a monster year last year for the Chunichi Dragons. Played himself into a lucrative contract with the Yomiuri Giants.

Good takes and research. I had assumed since he was 25 that he was through the limitations, but I hadn’t considered his service time. If that’s the case, I have no idea why his team would even post him, and it would seem to make a move to NPB/KBO the most likely scenario.

If you think there’s enough talent in the org to get to the verge of contention over the next two years alone, then you have a good argument. I think a lot of us aren’t as sure, or at least feel that adding a guy like Harper/Machado/Arenado helps enough to be worth the loss on flexibility later. i don’t know where I sit, honestly.

This. At this juncture, the Sox should spend their free agent money on: 1. Players that the market failed; undervalued, high upside talent 2. Elite, long-term, building-block talent Eovaldi could, ultimately, fall into the first category. But if he’s treated like a Chatwood, we aren’t at the spot where we want to commit market rate dollars to mid-rotation starters.

The unique thing about Harper/machado is their age and trajectory. There aren’t many cases where top-end free agents can reliably be expected to produce at a peak level for five or six seasons after the signing, which fits the White Sox need of flexibility in timeline. If they spend now, it needs to be on something foundational — talent “in the bank” that can be added to. If we were in the verge of contention, I would agree with you and I think you have a great point. It’s just that free agents generally need to be the last thing added, simply because the shelf life is so immediate.

Yeah I think these are the type of high-upside risks we need to continue to take, but of course it always comes down to cost.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/lamigo-monkeys-to-post-wang-po-jung.html Athletic, 25 year old lefty slugger that has demolished the CPBL. Could end up in Japan or KBO instead of MLB. Of course, no idea how his skill would translate. CPBL is noticeably weaker than the NPB and KBO, but some real talent pops out every now and then, like Daikan Yoh, who really should have ended up in the MLB.