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Nobody knows why they did that. It’s the most universally panned/disliked player transaction since the Shelby Miller trade. Thus, it probably shouldn’t be used as a representative example of free agent market behavior.

Haniger is probably the most valuable trade asset in their entire organization. There is no way they would EVER give him away to save money.

23 mil to play for a contender. What would it have cost to play for us? 25? 28? It is really naive to assume that JR spending TWENTY FIVE MILLION dollars on a one year player in 2019 wouldn’t affect his appetite to spend money on long term pieces in the future. Budget money doesn’t just appear and disappear magically each year. Yes, it would have made sense for us if the price was reasonable, but a contender was always going to be motivated to outspend a rebuilder to get JD on a one year deal.

Lol rekt

O_O

I’m gonna go ahead and guess a Mariners fan suggested that one lol Indians GM: “Ah okay Phillies, I see you’re ready to give up five of your top six prospects for Kluber. Thats good, but there’s one snag. We’re going to have to get the Mariners involved and send THEM most of those prospects because we’d rather trade our ace starter for a closer.”

Lol @ this thread

Yes, you have to add them to your 40-man roster if you win a claim.

Lame.

Alright, man. If you say so.

It’s not about blocking guys, it’s about risk. Injury prone number three starters are available every year at market rates. Why bet on this one not breaking down in years three and four of his deal? Sign mid-rotation starters in the offseason when you really need them.

The money is there, but it isn’t unlimited. If Cashman doesn’t want to pay Corbin, it could just mean that he think he can do more with the money. It’s very plausible that Corbin+Machado doesn’t fit the payroll while Happ+Machado just might.

I know firsthand that they “like” Happ personally, and I get the sense that they feel more comfortable with his medical situation since they’ve had him most recently. I think Cashman just doesn’t want to pay what Corbin is going to cost. Just a hunch. Edit: they also “like” Eovaldi a lot, as a person.

By acquiring one of those two arms without adding additional salary (Gray’s salary is similar and he is definitely getting moved), the chances that they add Happ instead at a much lower commitment and leave a ton of space for Machado are way higher. I actually think Happ is more likely than Corbin now that Cashman has already got a TOR arm in Paxton.

This move greatly increases the chances that they sign Machado.

All of those teams were 2 years further into their rebuilds. Well, except the A's, who are never really in or out.

Not trying to crap on your thread/exercise idea, but: Without Harper/Machado, there is no $150m payroll 2019 plan that makes sense. Even with one of the big two, we’re still rebuilding. No combination of free agents and trades can make a $150m team that’s any better than the one that failed us hard enough that it caused a rebuild a couple years ago. Yes, you can envision a dream scenario where every player takes a step or two forward and no one gets injured and the club decided to get four premium free agents, but the likelihood of that happening is akin to playing the lottery, except the cost of the losing lottery ticket is five years of shitty baseball instead of two bucks.

Guys really still trying to suggest all-in 2019 moves for the 63 win White Sox

This^

He’s a bad defender with a sub-300 obp and he’s already peaked. I’d rather give the roster spot to someone with upside. Yolmer Sanchez is roughly the same thing except the clubhouse loves him.

On this current White Sox roster, I think I would literally rather NOT have Diaz than even have him for free.

A contender will match any reasonable offer we could make, therefore if we got him we’d have to make an unreasonable offer. This type of player only makes sense for us if he unexpected falls through the cracks of the market and is still around in February for well below what he’s worth.

Avisail Garcia for Julio Teheran. Braves have a SP prospect crunch, and Teheran is about the eighth most interesting contender for a spot. He is useful as an innings eater, though, and might have some upside left. He is also on the “expensive” end of an early career extension he signed. Sox need an innings eater with upside. Braves need an affordable RF replacement for Markakis. Teheran is more valuable than Avi, but he is also due more money. The Braves then get to open a spot in their rotation, get a flyer for RF, and actually save money so they can still search for a bigger fish on FA. Sox are gonna sign a FA starter to eat innings anyway, and this is better than they’re going to get for what they’ll pay. Perfect match.

This is why you guys can't have the Filibuster. No one wants to moderate this bullshit. Couldn't even get through one page.

Oh well