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Man, no offense, but that is really hard to believe

I said before that the Yankees getting their TOR pitching via trade specifically increased their chances of getting Machado. Paxton is 1. If they get another and just happen to move Andujar at the same time. Well. With Didi gone at the end of the season, asking Machado to fill in at third for just one season seems like something that could be sold to him.

Had a few big hits for us in Lehigh Valley last year.

No chance

Make a ban bet about it

Just the last thing the 2019 White Sox need to tie up money into.

This morning I thought peavy44 was a very old person, now I think he might be 8.

The right deal isn’t out there, that’s the point. No one is giving up freaking Keibert Ruiz for one year of Jose Abreu coming off a down season.

Somebody please correct my assessment of this if I’m wrong. This is how I see it: This is, at best, rearranging economic deck chairs, and at worst, essentially illegal double taxation. Trump lowers corporate taxes in exchange for the lobbying support and donations that made him president. He jacks up military spending in exchange for votes from middle America. Now he has a revenue issue. So he enacts tariffs that add revenue, but all the increases in production cost that results from the tariffs comes out of the pockets of the private market. Exporters that continue to sell pass the cost of the tariffs on to the buyers, who pass the costs on to their customers and/or employees. The only domestic companies that get way ahead are those that can only now compete with the exporters in price. So essentially the only winners are (1) Trump, who found a way to steal much or all of the money back from the voters while still getting credit for giving it in the first place, and still maintain a tailor-made excuse for cutting public programs, and (2) the few companies that successfully lobbied trump into killing foreign competition with tariffs.

This. Friedman’s never overpaid for anything is his damn life.

I don’t see any reason that Collins can’t take the Gattis path. Develop him as a catcher, give him one to two starts a week there in the Majors and he does DH and/or 1B the rest of the time. Grandal would not block that eventuality. Castillo is the stopgap.

No, it happens for sure. You might be right about him. It just doesn’t happen all that often. And there’s just so much downside with pitchers like this, especially those with this kind of injury history. Im just wary about our payroll flexibility. We have a lot of room now, but you can eat through it quickly and it takes a while to clear up again. In 2020, wouldn’t you rather have the fresh 3 starter with upside that showed up right then, as opposed to the 30 year old version of today’s Eovaldi?

Eovaldi is similar to those guys in terms of fastball velocity. Unfortunately he is not similar in terms of production. If he was, you wouldn’t be talking about 4/60, and the way this market is shaping up, you may not be talking about 4/60 anyway. Eovaldi pitching really well for a couple months at a time isn’t new. Pitching well for six months at a time, though, would be. Is it possible? Sure. Maybe there is something sustainable to his new cutter, like you speculate. But it hasn’t happened yet, so it’s hard to call it likely. And even if the performance is sustainable, I’d be shocked if anyone could put together an argument supporting his storied injury history. Two-tommy John club member. Shoulder and wrist problems to boot. What we have here is a highly injury-prone veteran pitcher who has, a couple times, produced like #3 starter over the course of the season. You’re advocating outbidding several contenders, in a thin pitching market, on the hopes that he’ll both be better than he’s ever been in his career AND stay healthy for the first time in his career? To add to a 100 loss team, in hopes that he maintains this for several seasons so he can still be good when we need him?

There’s no domestic pitcher on the market right now that is good enough to warrant a significant, market rate free agent deal by the White Sox right now. With Corbin gone, they’re all mid rotation starters benefitting from a thin pool. Eovaldi is being massively overrated by his postseason performance. If he puts up a 4 WAR season, it’ll be the first time. The only guy that makes sense to me is POSSIBLY Kikuchi, and only if the uncertainty that comes with him causes teams to be nervous enough to keep his price down. There will ALWAYS be a Nathan Eovaldi on the market available for a median free agent salary. We should get that guy when we are a mid-rotation starter away from being a real contender. Otherwise, you’re spending a ton of money with the only good outcome being that things have to go almost as well as they possibly can.

If the Yankees had signed Corbin at this price, they’d have been out on Machado.

Thanks, this article clarified it greatly. Essentially this is like the hitter equivalent to xFIP. It’s like wRC+, except it normalizes BABIP in the same way that xFIP is like FIP except that it normalizes homerun rate. It also appears to treat park effects differently, though it wasn’t clear to me exactly how. My quick is that this is definitely useful, but very much not a replacement for wRC+. This metric would have been really useful when we were arguing about Avisai Garcia’s one good year. Instead of looking at his wRC+ and just noticing that his BABIP was sky high, we could have looked to DRC+ as an estimate for what he “should have” been given neutral “luck.” I take issue with using it as a WAR component though. While BABIP is certainly heavily luck-dependent, it is not SOLELY luck dependent, so this metric is going to underrate guys that consistently run high BABIPs (like speedy slap hitters and line drive machines) and overrate TTO monsters (like Gallo or Trumbo who do nothing hit hit homers and this have low BABIPs). Also makes sense why it like Frank Thomas so much.

I haven’t seen anything close to a decent summary of the differences yet, so I’m not sure how I feel about it yet. It sort of seems like they’re just using drastically different linear weight constants?

JP is nice kid who I will always root for. But this is just a fantastic deal for the Phillies. They had one of the worst defense in recent history last year. Not only do they improve offensively AND defensively at SS, but they get to move Hoskins out of LF back to first and stick and actual OF there. They essentially traded a couple years of Crawford's control to morph him into an 85th percentile outcome version of himself. And they get two useful relievers, as well. I cannot understand what the Mariners get out of this for even a moment. If it was a short-term money thing, I get it. But it isn't and so I just don't understand. I feel like they could have moved Segura for a better prospect package WITHOUT taking a bad contract back. And without giving up Pazos. Extremely confusing.

Well it’s interesting because it sounds like this one might actually be salary neutral after they include a reliever.

Better late than never ?

As the OG Avi hater, literally since the Peavy trade thread, this has been a long time coming for me. That said, even I can see the logic in giving him this last year to see if he gets hot and is tradeable, to salvage SOMETHING from the frustrating dumpster fire that was his time here. To me, this means that the Sox aren’t terribly confident about the health of his knee, or that they have plans for that 8 million bucks.

Im into this. He may not be a whole lot better than Engel, but if you have two of them, you increase your shot that one works out.

Definitely a surprise. But, he definitely had his chance. I’m way lower on Palka than the rest of the board, though.

Yes, but relievers consistently cost twice as much at the deadline. It’s the largest marginal premium of any position. Also, the Sox have shown a willingness to pay contracts down a bit in trades lately, which the Mariners were obviously not doing here.

Yeah the more it’s marinating, the more I’m okay with it. Narvaez is a useful piece, but I’ve said before I’d rather have a defensive specialist with our rookie staff than an bat-only catcher. And while the bat is useful, it’s not likely to be fantastic. But yeah, colome? I guess if they move him, he’s far more likely to net some talent with upside than Narvaez himself would have been. I guess it’s just that we talk about how important it is to give fringe guys a chance to develop during the lean years, and it seems like we were in a Good position to give Narvaez one more year to see if he could keep the bat and improve the defense before the prospects pushed him.