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And yet we’re talking about this because a well-known media correspondent cited it as a reason he should move down the defensive spectrum just now. No, if he hits, it’s fine. But if he’s inconsistent and looking for a job in a few years and someone decides to take this narrative somewhere, who knows? There’s all kinds of dumb shit that passes as “explanations” for player performance. Yeah it’s probably not a big deal. But it might be and it might not even be true and Moncada had no say in it. That’s bullshit. I’m not calling for anyone’s head over it, but it’s not fair.

It’s pretty BS to “out” someone’s mental health issues without that person’s consent, especially when it’s just hearsay, and ESPECIALLY when it could potentially affect the person’s employment opportunities in the future. It probably isn’t, ultimately, a big deal. But it COULD be.

James Shields was 34 and exhibiting noticeable declines in velocity. It isn’t the same thing. We can both cherry pick data and look right because Gray has been inconsistent and flawed. But that’s why he’s available in the first place. If he fetches a back-end top 100 guy, then yeah, it’s too much. But without much control left and considering that the Yankees are looking to bolster a current roster, I think it may be possible to get him for a decent depth piece or two that simply meets their needs more than Gray does. All I’m saying is that the White Sox should have made an inquiry the moment Cashman said he was a change of scenery candidate, and if he gets moved for peanuts, it should be the Sox paying the peanuts.

That’s one way of organizing some data, yes. But another way would be to say that Gray is one year removed from a 3.55 ERA / 3.90 FIP season in which he put up nearly 3 wins in just 160 innings. Yes, there’s a good reason he’s on the chopping block, and you don’t want to give up a ton, but this is exactly the type of guy the Sox should be looking at. Bounce back guys that still have the stuff and can fill a much needed rotation spot can turn into gold a la Arrieta. One of the advantages of rebuilding is that we have innings to give the guy with nothing at stake. We are gonna have to nail a couple of these if we are going to end up like the Cubs/Astros. I wish he had more control remaining, but we could flip him or extend him if he gets good. We should be very involved in trying to pry him away at a modest price.

I always liked Eddie Esco

Was gonna say the same thing. McDaniel/Longenhagen spent some time talking about Witt on a recent podcast and at what point said it’s possible that Witt is a 30 hit at maturity and will be a major leaguer on the strength of his speed and power. This is not the type of player I want in the White Sox organization.

Never forget Matt LaPorta.

Excellent example of how we don’t know what the F*** we are talking about when we decide how the front office works from reading articles.

Good, this thread again.

Right, and 24 teams passed on Trout, etc.

Jeff Hoffman?

The last sentence of your post seems to contradict the rest of it.

Refusing to be enraged by pointless milestones is not the same thing as “pulling for losses.” We want the process to continue, we want to stay the course so that we can be good as soon as possible and for as long as possible.

What difference would one more win make? Would 99 losses really be any better than 100? Dont be fooled by arbitrary cutoff points as milestones. Whatever problems you have with the team, they wouldn’t be any different with 97 losses or 105 losses.

So much is going to change. It’s really hard to take any ranking seriously at this point — more useful just to compile names to watch. From what I’ve read regarding Langeliers, he is as defensively advanced as Rutschman and has pop, but less athletic and far less bat, making his offensive upside a full tick lower. It sounds to me like a Zunino comp.

No one's draft strategy is to end up with only relief pitchers. Both the A's and Rays tried it because all of their decent starters got hurt.

Right, because it isn’t possible to agree on a player. Everything has to be polar. Scouts versus stats! Us versus them!

Also, there are many that believe Jake Burger (and Zach Collins, to a lesser extent) was a pure Trackman exit velo pick. Considering how bad the body and the defense are, it’s hard to believe old scouts were clamoring for him.

Scioscia is a dinosaur still living off the glory of winning the WS fifteen years ago. He had a good career, and should retire.

This positional logjam stuff always - ALWAYS - works itself out. There’s no point in moving anyone for anyone when nobody is forcing anybody. It’s ridiculous to talk about anyone on the White Sox blocking anyone else at this point. When we have two dudes raking at the same position in the Majors, then the time to worry about it. Let’s try to even get there first. If that happens, and no one wants to move, then somebody gets traded for something useful. Its gonna be fine.

The rebuild is in year two.

I saw a post, in this very thread, claiming that the White Sox are LEAVING CHICAGO if Rick Hahn doesn’t bring a championship.

“The team blew when they were ‘going for it.’” Agreed. “Having the same people run the rebuild that ran that being questioned is legitimate.” Agreed. And it has been questioned to death. The answer to the question is very clearly a few years away. “If this entire rebuild is dependent on Michael Kopech, a guy who was throwing a lighter baseball 110 MPH in the offseason a year and a half ago, being healthy, it needs a new architect.” it isn’t.

This board is full of 8-year old children. Yes, the team blows. It’s because it’s full of young kids learning to get good. This is what a rebuild looks like. Be patient or NO XBOX WHEN WE GET HOME DO YOU HEAR ME

Seibu officially announced they’re posting Yusei Kikuchi. I want him really badly because I love NPB, but I honestly don’t know if its a smart buy. He’s had minor but recurring shoulder issues, and I think he’s realistically a mid-rotation guy over here.