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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) He posted a .6 WAR last year. The fangraphs article I found from last season put the cost of 1.0 WAR at $7 million. 60% of that is $4.2 million. It isn't crazy to think we are at $8 million per war now, and 60% of that would be $4.8 million. Previous to last year he posted 0.8, 0.8, and 1.2 from 2013, 12, and 11 respectively. The number isn't that crazy is you subscribe to the WAR numbers. Net present value for WAR in the FA market is still between $5-6M, depending on which model you use. I doubt he could post .6 WAR as a bench player, but for insurance in case Sanchez and Micah doesn't pan out, $2M is well worth it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) Never, ever, count out a LeBron James led team. Yep, unfortunately. I don't believe we could actually beat Lebron in the playoffs, not until I see it with my own eyes.

I know we saved $4M, but I kind of wish that we kept DV on the roster. Bonifacio, Beckham, Soto and Viciedo would give us one of the best benches in the league. The drop off between Viciedo and Shuck or Taylor is pretty significant offensively. Ideally, Boni would backup 3B/CF/LF, Beckham backs up 2B/SS/3B, Viciedo backs up LF/RF/DH, Soto would backup C/DH. As of now, I think the chances of Soto winning the backup catcher spot increased a little bit. Historically, he's pretty good against lefties, so it wouldn't surprise me if he gets some look as the DH for LaRoche along with Beckham. Boni and Beckham alone just doesn't provide enough pop at DH. Now let's see if we are tabbed or if we could use some of that money saved to bring in another bullpen arm or reclamation project starter.

I am worried about the Cavs in the playoffs a lot more than Wizards or Hawks. 20-6 in the last 26 games Lebron played, tons of shooters, improving team defensively, and one of the few teams that could legitimately out rebound us. We're pretty evenly matched with the Wiz and there's a chance Hawks will cool off, but Cavs will always be the tougher matchup.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:14 AM) If I take his line, on espn's box score and add up the first number in every column...I get 16. 5pts 1 TO 2 PF 2 Steals 1 Asst 2 Rebounds 1 3PM 2 FGM BOOM! Uncanny. The person came up with the 16 +/- almost has to be discerned genius. Sikeeeee QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) First off, if you didn't just flat out enjoy this game, well, you aren't a basketball fan. That game was fun, exciting, etc. Had the feeling of a playoff game out there with both teams flying all over the place. The energy levels from both teams were crazy high and it was damn exciting. Rose had about the oddest game you'll ever see. On one hand, he was extremely aggressive offensively and did a nice job getting points in the paint and didn't settle too much for the 3 (until late in the 4th where you could tell his legs were getting tired). Defensively Rose was sick. It is what this team has missed all year, imo. When Rose plays D, he is a well above average PG defender and it is critical cause it makes everything else easier. Passing though, I cringe all the time with Rose. He does so many things that are fundamental no-no's and they lead to cookie turnovers and way too many. However, I think we are seeing more of them cause now he's bringing his game to a quicker level, higher energy, etc, and that means he's getting caught in more positions where he hasn't really gotten enough practice and still has a lot of rust. Noah played huge tonight. Was running the court better than I have seen all year and much more active on the glass. Whole team was active on the glass (yes they gave up that tip in). Some huge shots late and big stones keeping in the game despite Golden State going on a few different runs. Klay is the best 2 in the league. Dude is insane. He hit some extremely difficult and clutch shots in the 4th. Damn that was fun. The game, especially in the 4th quarter, had the feel of a heavyweight boxing match. Both teams put their best on the line and was trading punches back and forth. Warriors wanted to prove that they are as good as advertised and are unbeatable at home. Bulls wanted to prove that they still belong in the conversation of championship contenders. Definitely an enjoyable game to watch, outside of iffy officiating.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 12:36 AM) In fairness to Derrick's effort today, I thought he made things really tough on Curry defensively. Offensively, he was clearly winding Curry too, which probably harmed Curry's offense. That Curry still had an okay offensive game is just a testament to how good he is His defense was superb in the second half. It seems he knew Curry's tendency really well, probably benefited from those Team USA scrimmages. Turnovers were frustrating but not unexplainable. Warriors are one of the best teams in the league in forcing turnovers, and with Jimmy out, Derrick tried to do a little too much. I think he would have had a better game if Jimmy played, and they had to put Klay on Jimmy instead, and leaving Curry and a small dose of Iggy on Rose.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 12:14 AM) It's not a back-to-back, he's gonna play. It's against the Lakers. I like our chances even without him and save him for the Suns on Friday.

Hey guys, I got two words for the Warriors, SUCK IT! Officiating was lopsided up until that last foul on Iggy, they had momentum all game long and could have ran away with the game. A heavy dose of reality check for them, when they are not hitting the 3's, they aren't that good. Great job on D by Rose and Hinrich all night.

HINRICHHHHHHHH

More interesting than Rose's 11 TO to no assist ratio is the fact that he hasn't attempted an FT, despite the number of drives and amount of contact in each drive.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 11:21 PM) Not sure I've ever seen a point guard have a game with no assists and ten turnovers We don't have a point guard.

Officials seem to be indirectly pushing game in GSW's favor. They are allowing them to keep playing and running up and down the floor despite a lot of contact on both sides of the floor.

Rose's handle is super cringe worth

Really caught a bad time to play the Warriors. No Butler and Klay is still scorching hot from the Sacto game.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) 16 what? High fives

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) With Sanburn, I gotta look at what he's done. 0 starts last year, decent but not spectacular performance in high A ball last year. Not exceptionally young for that level. Yes, there's talent there. Yes there's plenty of room to grow, but there's like 10 guys in the system I can say that about. He's one of the better ones, but until I see it on the field he's a reliever with a lot to learn. That's what I figured to be the concern for most folks. The way I look at it, his stuff is there, a plus fastball and 3 average to above average secondary offering. Last year was the first year he was healthy and the A's stretched his arm out with multiple inning relieves and he did pretty well in that role. He should be given every chance to start this year and if he stays healthy, look out.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) Yeah, you're probably right. I went through it pretty quick. Looking at it again, I'd probably change a couple things about my own list. I am a big fan of Peter. Still relatively young, and doesn't strikeout at all. If he can just hit .300 in A ball this year and do nothing else, he could certainly crack the Top 20 because of his age and the position he plays.

I think we're a little bit low on Sanburn here, he should be in the upper teens, or even borderline top 10 if it were up to me. He's a former shortstop, good athlete and sits on 93-94 on most days. Also throws pretty curve and change with an improving slider. With his arsenal has a very good chance to stick as a starter, a pretty good one at that, if he remains healthy (had some shoulder problems in the past). I am also higher on Martinez, Guerrero, and Ynoa than Thompson, Barnum and Kevan Smith. I think the former trio also has a good chance to make it and contribute in one way or another. The chance of Barnum panning out is slim to none, and Thompson and Smith wouldn't be any more than bench players if they do make it. Lastly, Robinson Leyer. High ceiling, had a good year last year, I think he will break out this year. Would be interested to see if he at least made the just-missed list.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 08:53 AM) I'm curious how people react to the list. When we did our voting and discussion, we felt the very top (top 6-7 or so) was strong, the next group (say 8-20-ish) was relatively weak, but the back end (20+) was very strong, all relative to a typical straight-line. I agree with this. Sox have 6-7 guys who have huge potential or is very proven in the minors, then the next tier of folks who either has limited ceiling but a good track record in the minors, or decent ceiling but hasn't put it together yet. The 20-30 tier folks are interesting because they are still pretty far off, but if they take the next step forward, they could crack the top 10 by the end of the season. I am looking at you, Guerrero, Fry, and Martinez. QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:22 AM) 1. Carlos Rodon 2. Tim Anderson 3. Micah Johnson 4. Tyler Danish 5. Courtney Hawkins 6. Frank Montas 7. Spencer Adams 8. Trey Michalczewski 9. Carlos Sanchez 10. Jacob May 11. Matt Davidson 12. Micker Adolfo 13 Cleuluis Rondon 14. Chris Beck 15. Jake Peter I know Adams will be higher than Danish, but this is my list. Pretty sure it will be Fry not Peter. Peter isn't the type of player that will get a lot of love after only half a season as he doesn't offer much besides above average hit tool.

If the voters sleep on someone like Bassitt again like they did last time, I am calling for a re-election of the committee

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 03:46 PM) I have to fully disagree with this. Reigns eliminating a top baby face would have been nuclear heat on him. WWE did the best they could, they threw in 2 guys not even smarks could cheer for over Reigns (Kane and Show) and an anti American. It still didn't work. We'd rather side with Vladimir Putin than Roman Reigns. I personally wouldn't have a problem if it ended up with Reigns eliminating Bryan at the end. If Bryan and Reigns puts on hard fought battle for 10 minutes, that would have put the fans at the edge of their seats, because the match could have went either way. If Reigns beats Bryan convincingly at the end, Bryan comes back in the ring to shake Reigns' hand to endorse him, everyone goes home happy. The issue at hand is there was nothing convincing about the way Bryan was eliminated. Come on, you have one of the most over superstars of all time eliminated by a tackle from Bray Wyatt midway through the match after being out of action for half a year? I think the fans wanted to see more than that.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Which would be pretty dumb in my opinion but I guess I'm alone in thinking that. Too me its like Shawn Michaels is popular so let's not try and develop the rock or something along those lines. We saw with the rash of injuries just a few months ago that they really need to start building more stars than just your top few guys. Even though I can't stand Reigns personally, I think the backlash is more so on how it was done rather than who won. Bryan and Reigns were the 2 heavy favorites all along and when Bryan was tossed mid way through the match, everyone knew who was going to win and the rest of the rumble was pointless. There is usually excitement and suspense in the match when only 3-4 superstar remains. But when Ambrose was gone, it was more obvious than ever that Reigns will win out vs. the has been Big Show and Kane. Now, if the last 3-4 standing were Ziggler, Ambros, Bryan and Reigns, I think the crowd would have took the match a lot better than they did.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 08:36 AM) That'd be nice...I mean NO! WWE SUX! Cancel your subscriptions!!! Give me some credit, I was part of the reason the Cancel page crashed last night!

On the bright side, unless Orton comes back to continue his feud with Rollins, we might finally get the WM Rollins vs. Bryan match.

f***ing BS they dragged Rock into this s*** show.