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White Sox gonna be White Sox. While they landed a top 10 quality kid, the class is incredibly shallow as usual and I suspect they have money left they aren’t going to spend and trade away at some point.

Who do they got to work with besides those two? Eloy is good for 100 games a year at DH, their farm is still middle of the pack, and JR isn’t willing to open up checkbook for high end free agents. Whoever’s taking over has their work cut out for them.

Waiting for Bob to tweet that TLR will be brought in as the head of search committee to fill these roles.

Davis looks like a solid signing.

Having their reasons doesn’t make it the right move. Just like they were reasons to trade for Claypool, signing Pringle, or drafting Velus Jones. I hope we could see those reasons translate into on field results soon, I’m not sold on the Poles/Eberflus combo yet, but time will tell here.

Unless they go after one in the draft, they’d have to pay a decent amount even for the next tier tackles.

Hard to imagine Edmund fitting better than Roquan TBH. I’ve read that Eberflus wanted a playmaker and a turnover machine from this position and Edmunds is not that.

Love the Edwards signing but I would have prioritize DL/OL over Edmunds. They pretty much have to go after linemen with the first 3 picks.

They could had Roquan and Edwards for $26.5M AAV (and a high 2nd had they not wasted it on Claypool). Roquan has one more year with slightly higher guarantee. I don’t think at the end it makes material differences where you need burn bridges with a star player who’s building legacy with your franchise. Unless the coaching staff feels that Edwards could anchor the defense better than Roquan.

Roquan got $60M guaranteed. I wonder if that was the number Roquan wanted from the Bears and end up not getting.

It is not incredibly team friendly. I wouldn’t even call it team friendly. WR is one position you get good production immediately from rookie contracts. See 2022 Mooney.

They have a number of holes on the team and meeting the salary floor shouldn’t have been an issue.

I see Moore as more of a good #2. He caught 21 TDs in 5 seasons and Brown caught 23 in just 3 with Titans. Brown is definitely a bigger body guy with better measurements and a legit red zone target. Put it this way, if Bears were to trade the #1 pick and take a $20M cap hit I would expect a chance at a franchise changing defender or a #1 receiver in addition to future picks.

Most of the mock trades had teams paying 20% above the #1 pick trade value for it. This is definitely underwhelming, and Moore’s contract is going to eat into our cap space.

Moore isn’t a number 1 WR and we aren’t getting a franchise changing defender at #9. Not a fan here.

I want to give s%*# to the Sox for this move, but I find it hard to. Look at it this way, it’s hard to see this deal being in the negative value. Even if he’s averages 2 WAR during his age 28-33 seasons, this is still a fair value deal. He was a 5 WAR player back in 2018 and coming off a 3 WAR season, I could see him being an above average player if he’s healthy again and take advantage of hitting at GRF. Only reason to hate on this move is this isn’t a move that would put them over the top, but at this point no single move would. Let’s just hope we can get another bat at 2B and round out the team.

That’s a weird take. MLB is the only sport that gives prep players options to go to college or turn pro. NFL and NBA forces players to go to college. Great players in college basketball turn pro after a year if they think they’re a lottery pick anyways. In facts players have long complained about having to play in college with minimum compensation that now NBA allows prep players to play in the G League for a year and become eligible for draft.

Most of the guys you mentioned are past their prime player and did not rebound elsewhere. So yea, this is mainly a byproduct of targeting low end of the market for bargains, bad scouting and player analytics in general.

The best thing we could hope for is this team continues to slide and becomes sellers at the deadline, makes a few moves to retool, TLR relieved of his duties and we do this again next season.

No, this has been a .500 team for the last 120 games or so now. Great pitching isn’t going to overcome poorly hitting and field and awful lineups and managerial decisions.

I would assume other deals they looked at had them eating money and getting marginal value in return. There is a reason they couldn’t get a deal done until a week before season start.

It was a high risk low reward move. It was done to save face for the disaster of a trade They were a week before the season starts away from being stuck with him. Had Kenley Jansen resigned with Dodgers they’d be screwed. With the $16M I rather they sign someone outright who could stay on the field more so than Pollock.

It seems like he failed at all 4 of the points you mentioned, not sure if you are being serious asking if he could have done more. 1) Wouldn’t have been an issue had they declined his option, or better yet not trade for him… 2) They brought in an injury prone at RF so you could use the injury excuse at the end. 3) Big F. 4) How is this not a failure? Even if you want to use the injury excuse Keuchel was still penciled in as the 5th starter with everyone healthy. That is an absolute failure. 5) Again you used the injury excuse. It’s like no one has seen that one coming. What has Hahn done to add depth to this team?

For once I wholeheartedly agree with Parkman. This is the issue I keep seeing with this board during the off season. People who ignored how bad the off season turned out to be because they somehow believed this core was a lot better they actually have shown and this is easily still a playoff team. Part of it is people were still valuing the players based on their former top 5 or 10 prospect reputation, other part of it is not realizing how good other teams or other players actually are. In reality no one on this team will finish top 10 in MVP voting for one reason or another. Robert and Eloy won’t likely play for than 120 games. Moncada isn’t the 30/30 MVP caliber player we thought he’d be. Vaughn hasn’t yet develop into the middle of the order bat we thought he could be. Madrigal is gone. We have some pretty awesome pitchers but that ain’t enough to carry this dreadful offense. We can blame injuries but that’s always going to be there with this group. It isn’t as if we didn’t see this coming. The Sox basically played .500 baseball since the ASB last year and got embarrassed by the astros in the playoffs. Perhaps the 1st half was an aberration and .500 baseball is what we could expect from this team and this manager.

Also I’ve had Yolbert as a top 5 prospects by midpoint last year. He’s not getting a lot of love from the industry, but I could see him being a Madrigal lite on offense while being more consistent on defense.