Baron

You are? Can you stop making trash V8s please?

Your assuming I believe they have no hope which makes the argument stupid. There's always hope. Just because I think our General Manager does more harm than good doesn't mean that eventually someone won't take over that won't turn this team completely around. I've been a Chicago Bears fan all my life. In a short time that team went from a laughing stock with Marc Trestman and Phil Emery to Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace. Is Jerry as quick to pull the trigger as George is for the Bears? Absolutely not. But he'll get there at some point. Until then I'll be along for the ride with the players that are getting sick of losing and are trying hard to win. Excuse me but I just absolutely hate the post police. You want to know what will change in this forum? When the team finally decides it's time to win.I guarantee you it'll do a 180. Give the "look what I'm doing and you'll be fine!" stuff a break. I don't think anyone here needs to be told how to run their life or when to talk about their favorite team.

The problem is when certain poster repeat ad nauseas that Hahn is the worst GM ever and is definitely going to fail this offseason Who has said this? I know your probably referring to me I'm just wondering if your using hyperbole and pulling something out of thin air or if you actually have evidence. If you think this is bad you need to expand your horizons to other teams with even a few years of losing and the fanbase is absolutely furious. I think up until recently this forum has been very tame with the amount of losing this franchise has been doing lately.

I'm just curious to see how much they want to move that staff around. Doesn't seem like they want to do a whole lot of shuffling.

It very well might. Have to wait and see what the reports are after the trade is complete.

Well forget about the Phillies

I'll be condescending. That's a stupid argument. If you don't see the obvious replies to that I can't help you.

Rick Hahn being trusted to fill out those spots no matter how many there are is the problem.

How can you say the approach is different too after the Manny debacle and listening to them about how they viewed their contract offers? They really thought having 2 less guaranteed years was a better offer than 10 years. That sounds like the same management to me.

I don't condemn the front office for what's been going on just lately. But their entire tenure here. Lets get that straight. It's not a "what have you done for me lately problem". More losing is only going to amplify it. I'll repeat again but I'm going to be on them until this team if it ever turns the corner.

AJ Reed would have needed a 5 iron to hit that ball

Moncada is deadly

The people who want another top 10 pick.

Some GMs don't deserve the chance because they cause more damage.

Well they "should" have been fired before the rebuild. But that didn't happen.

Look. Here's what it is atleast with me. My patience is pretty low because this is the same group of guys that haven't been able to build a winning club the entire time they've been here. Kenny sure but that was a while ago. If those guys had been fired and a new group had been brought in with a good track record there would be much much more patience on my end. But right now especially after the Manny debacle they can kick rocks. I'm going to be critical of them until I start seeing results.

I'll answer your last question. Zero. Beane is a far superior Exec. Stone ofcourse followed up this tweet with the "Stay with us or don't" as if he's completely deaf to the bullshit in politics this week.

They aren't. Plain and simple. It's very obvious that the front office has zero desire to do that right now.

It's because Jose isn't looking at the long term as Rick Hahn would say. Give it a decade. Then we'll be in Portland.

And he would be correct. Rick Hahn has done a piss poor job of even getting fillers on this team that can hold the fort.

See different from years past...still stink. But we're asking more. Making progress!! In 10 years we'll be at .500 again.

See here's the thing. If they want to compete next year why even think about moving them for whatever you can get? I'm pretty certain they don't want to do another overhaul of the pen again. I see you said 2021 on a post later. I don't think their goal is to start flipping the switch in that year. It should be next year. In any case if they still think 2020 is a rebuild year then free agency they should just stand pat.

Taking whatever you can get for Colome would be silly. He has another year of control.

I'd rather him not trade if the offers aren't good enough. He should be asking for a kings ransom for our relievers and accept no less.

You know what we could do is sell until the end of time. That way Rick will always have an excuse for why they are playing bad. Just keep the process going.