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He's going to the Angels in that deal

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) You don't need to, just saying that you taking flawed defensive metrics as the gospel is a skewed way of judging a player. Go back and re-read my first setence before the Bill James comment. Then get back to me.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) You putting all your eggs in 1 basket to defend a point says all it needs to. I've watched multiple Cubs games last year & outside of bad jumps from time to time (hence the below average), he's not the liability you make him out to be. Forgive me if I don't take your judgement to heart. I'm not relying on your ability to judge defense.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) Sometimes it better to watch with your eyes instead of relying on unreliable metrics. It's confirmed by the eye test. That Bill James guy...what the hell does he know about baseball right?

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) I was hoping the Rangers would sign Stubbs or Venable. Stubbs was linked to them over the weekend. It just seems with Jackson that if the Sox were interested, they would have locked him up by now. A Rangers writer linked them to Venable the other day. Hopefully they take him. Otherwise...as much as it pains me...I'd rather just go into the season with Garcia. Hahn will have to live with his mistake until the deadline.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) He doesn't "suck" on defense. Below average? Sure. Suck? No. Yeah he does suck. He gave up more runs than most outfielders the past 2 years.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) From the same article about Crawford, there was a blurb linking the Cubs and Rangers to Jackson. Yeah those were the two that have been linked to him for a while. Hopefully they are in discussions with him and he realizes he has a much better shot to start here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) Good stuff, thanks. Don't get me wrong, I want someone way better than Venable. Just seems based off of the description given by Hahn that it won't be a full-time starter that they go after. Hopefully they come to some agreement with Jackson. He's the best fit. Defensively it would be a huge plus. We would save basically 11 runs by replacing Garcia with him. That could be a couple games worth of runs.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Based off of what stats? Just wondering what you're looking at. Defensive runs saved he actually was a minus in each position in the outfield. Awful in RF. Serviceable in LF. God Awful in CF. The best part is he had almost no assists in the outfield.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) is his defense that bad? It sucks Austin Jackson fits the best. Venable wasnt even a positive on offense.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:07 PM) “We’re looking for any way to get better,” Hahn said, when asked if he liked to add another outfielder. “The final couple spots on the roster will come down to a combination of platoon advantage, speed, defense and positional flexibility.” http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/brett-...-series-caliber I have a feeling Will Venable is the most likely fit. He fits 2 of those categories. The other 2 definitely not.

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) What a vote of confidence for Saladino. LOL I like it...just brutal honesty. He has potential but he better not waste their time. Or he will be replaced. Sounds good to me.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Feb 18, 2016 -> 04:59 PM) Carl Crawford. I actually wouldnt mind that depending on how much money was taken by the Dodgers. This is a little random. But atleast we dont have the most delusional front office under Jerry's watch.....Bulls are really attracting some attention.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 17, 2016 -> 07:40 PM) Fowler's only fit on this team was ability to get on base. The defense, being average against RHP and comp pick always made him a bad fit, in my opinion. His offense would have been nice. Garcia is just so absolutely awful specifically on defense that he would need to be spectacular on offense to negate the lost runs he would give up.

His defense just sucks too much. It would negate anything he is doing well offensively. Basically Prince Fielder syndrome.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 17, 2016 -> 07:32 PM) Honest question, but what can Jackson realistically expect if Fowler ends up with a 2/$25M deal? I'm thinking something like 2/$16M, which would be a pretty solid price IMO. I'm sure Dick Allen will mention it but his agent is Boras....I dont think he cares.

Yeah Garcia! Let's see those dropped balls in RF again this year.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 17, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) Come on guys, were talking about trying to upgrade Avi, a high impact bat would be nice but not necessary to make the improvement. Correct...Austin Jackson's defense alone would save us roughly 2 games worth of runs

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 08:55 PM) I read somewhere that most of Fowler's leaked runs were due to throwing issues. As long as he underhand rolls the ball back in, we should be good Alot of throwing issues and out of position runs given up.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 07:59 PM) That's impossible, lol. Nope...Fowler has given up about 32 runs the past 2 years.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) Dude i get it. Just making a point if i guy has all those strikeouts and errors and Horsh%^#tt OBP and his stats have been on a steady decline then don't bring up how good his WAR is and tell me he is a better fit than Fowler. Fowler fits our team better then Desmond because of his OBP and better outfield defense than Melky or Garcia. Technically Fowler plays worse defense than Melky and Garcia.

White Sox are out of money...nice try Kenny. Not falling for that one again.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 01:35 PM) And for those WAR followers how does a guy who has averaged 24 errors and 171 strikeouts over the last 3 years with a 311 OBP have a good war? Maybe a good fit for some teams but for us not good at all IMO. Thanx P On my phone but a quick explanation. The errors did not amount to any damage done during the game.

QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Stop being rational and understanding how the process of the media works. When I read the above posts, all I can think about is this: That song is stuck in my head now thanks