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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) Todd Frazier is just what the Sox need- a low-mid batting average, power hitter from the NL They certainly dont need that 3.4 offensive WAR.

Honestly that's not a bad deal for a guy like Zimmerman. It's just Detroit has too much junk on their payroll that really dampens this signing.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 02:30 PM) I'm not so sure. I just think that if Sox go after and sign a big time free agent, they'll regret it, and so will we. Sox have two primo prospects that should be ready in either late 2016 or opening day, 2017. A couple other prospects should emerge next year, too. Plus, if Sox draft well again next year, it will help big time. My other thought is to trade Q for 3-4 really good (Boston) prospects, and by 2018 we will have a young, exciting team to pull for. Maybe 2017. Either way, unless some miracle occurs, 2016 figures to be a repeat of 2015, regardless of what they do. If they have money to burn, spend it some Cuban prospects. There's some talented players on this team that you just cant afford to waist any time with. If you do then trade them. Trade Abreu,Sale,Q and whoever else. In my opinion if you cant build a team with those guys to atleast be competitive on a regular basis that just shows the incompetence of that front office. Plus if that was the plan Robin should have quit. Standing pat would only be more fuel to the fire.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) Interesting. Wonder what direction they're going in. I'm guessing adding payroll. I think that's almost certainly the case. Out of all the options adding and continuing to build makes the most sense. Standing pat made the least sense.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 10:21 PM) Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 2m2 minutes ago #Tigers in discussions with Jordan Zimmermann, sources tell @ken_rosenthal and me, with multiple people saying talks have become serious. Bring it. Well that's a little unexpected

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 26, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) It is amazing how many people think Robin Ventura knows so much less about Major League Baseball than people who have never been in a clubhouse. Nice assumption there. I'll answer the previous question though. I dont think he handled Zach Duke,Adam LaRoche and Tyler Flowers correctly regarding to matchups.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 09:10 PM) Former All-Star and Silver Slugger in '11. But let's b**** and complain. Ya never know man hope he bounces back. At 2.5 mil if you're b****ing you just need to step back and wait for more moves. This isn't a bad signing. 2011 was 4 years ago.He had a few little life signs last year but not alot. We had a better backup catcher last year who got signed for a few hundred thousand more than he got. Plus your going to have to be smart about platooning these two guys. That's great...we got Robin though. I just see alot of bad matchups with pitchers and plenty of missed opportunities. If there was someone else managing I would be fine with it. But we dont.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 11:56 AM) His problem has been injury, for quite some time. I think if you could squeeze a miraculous (somewhat) healthy season out of him, you would get good results That's fine. I just have a hard time believing that Robin is going to put these guys in position to maximize value. Especially when he has yet to do that in his tenure here.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 11:42 AM) Comerica is one of the worst ballparks for offense in baseball. You really think he's going to drop off from moving from a bad hitter's park to what has traditionally been a great hitter's park? Come on, it's not like he's coming from Coors. Well the problem is he wasnt hitting well in Comerica either. Just that it wasnt nearly as blackholeish as everywhere else. Let's keep this in mind to...do you really think Robin is going to put either of them in position to fully maximize their value? That's the main problem I have with a platoon.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) He's a part time catcher. It's not a bad signing or something to have a strong opinion on. This place is a f***ing joke anymore. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Your right...this place is certainly not a joke anymore It's not the end of the world. His batting splits have some pretty awful signs in it though.

Unfortunately I think they got worse at this position. Here's the thing. Who gives a s*** if he's a pro? He couldnt hit away from Detriot last year especially at the Cell.

Well his away splits are terrible

sounds like #Marlins and #Mariners could be aiming to complete a larger deal than simply Ozuna for a starting pitcher. https://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/669364744013369344 Maybe Paxton is involved

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) Feel like we should have matched that That's a pretty reasonable deal for what he brings to the table. What's Flowers going to make after arbitration?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) 2nd in baseball for getting balls called strikes. Good. He'll get a medal for that. As was pointed out in the middle of the season below average in offensive war and defense. Trailing......Soto!

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 06:42 PM) f***. I liked him, especially as a backup. We have the ultimate pitch framer though...we dont need him

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR 51s51 seconds ago Confirmed Angels deal with Geovany Soto is $2.8 million. https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR Well crap

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 22, 2015 -> 12:09 PM) Anytime someone cites them, I scroll on by. I remember they were using tweets off my page as sources for the Patrick Kane issue this summer

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 06:16 PM) Baez is a guy I wouldn't mind the White Sox gamble on - I like the idea of piling up guys who have talent but who have had major issues in the past to see if they can turn things around. That's one way to fix the mess fairly quickly - find a guy another team gives up on that turns his career around. However, I'd look at him that way - nothing more than a low value gamble, whereas I think they'd still like to get substantial value for him. That's fair. But I'm not sure the Cubs view his value as a low level gamble. Not yet atleast. Give him time to accumulate those strikeout numbers then maybe.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) Interesting... maybe we talked Quintana/Schwarber? That's who I would want. They can keep Baez.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) Still young, and has the potential to still be a really good player. Your giving up Q and Montas to acquire someone who's coming off major injury concerns and even when he's played at the major league level it's been bleh. I'm sorry but I would be furious with that trade. There's some intriguing prospects there but that's just it. Intriguing.

Why Profar for Q? Profar has clearly some injury issues and has not shown he can play in the majors.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) i am going to play devil's advocate and ask these question. 1. could the sox know that it was far fetched to make the playoff and was hoping to sell tickets?? 2. did they really think the team had a chance but was snake-bit by a lousy start?? obviously they didn't think it was RV failure b/c they gave him another chance to manage, Well if they thought it was far fetched they sure did waist alot of money for this mirage.

The thing is Chisoxfn I would be more comfortable with a total rebuild if it wasnt the same people organizing it that were just screaming playoffs last year. So you guys failed. Now we have to wallow in misery for a few years because your moves put us in this position? That shouldnt make anyone feel confident that they'll get this right. I have almost zero faith that even if they get the right prospects that they have the right coaching staff in place to help them develop. Any Front Office who seemingly puts a team in position for playoffs and fails shouldnt have a shot at a rebuild. You've already demonstrated that there's huge flaws in the way you scout/sign players and develop them.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) And young "talent" has a way of disappointing. It wasn't long ago many were concerned about the date Matt Davidson had to wait so he wouldn't be a super 2. If they traded Q, Sale, Abreu, and Robertson for prospects, they would IMO no doubt be considered a top 5 farm system in baseball. If you look at the supposed top farm systems in baseball 4 or 5 years ago, and look at their top 10 prospects, there aren't very many of them making much of a contribution these days. That's the overall problem. Just wait until those prospects start failing. People that were for selling those players will be jumping the ship rapidly. Ontop of that we'll be in whose shape than we are now.