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Deadlines are cool. Good things happen when teams have a date they need to do stuff by. Now I'm not sure we do anything by then but I bet this is only the tip of the iceberg for the rest of the league. Should be a fun next few days.

Jesse Crain got a 3 year 13 million dollar deal and his best years were here. If your trying to add to Parkman's argument I don't see how he works. We got all the upside.

Correct. In his case it doesn't mean he wasn't elite. But his peak was Atlanta. Scott Linebrink isn't even the same conversation.

In a different area it happened with trading for Lynn last year. "We need a high in the rotation pitcher bad" to "We gave up what? What the hell is wrong with them". Unless you getting good players for trash there's people upset here always.

Well it's reinforcing Chi Sox's point. He wasn't at his peak then.

Was that in 2004 with San Diego?

and that was not his peak

It's benign according to the article I read. Not an expert in spinal surgery but I'd assume it's risky.

Apparently he found out in 2020 he had a tumor in his spine which was the reason for his switch to a relief role. Less stress on his back.

I thought we were going dumpster diving.

Well that's delusional. No way are they serious about this.

You may get the former in any case.

Is what's going to happen on his reply

We are honored to have you back here. Show us the way enlightened one!

I think there's a very good possibility he ends up there. I think it'll happen well after the CBA issue but it'll happen.

I've just been sitting here laughing. He forgot his argument in 1 page of comments.

Nice edit lol

Even if that were true and it's not but that still wouldn't mean they weren't serious about acquiring him.

See maybe it's just me but I don't think there's some grand conspiracy going on here. They wanted Manny. They made him an offer they were comfortable with. They had the highest offer for months. His team waited it out and they got a higher offer. That's just well played by his side.

Saying agree to disagree is a cop out. You really really need to stop moving the goal posts. They were absolutely serious in acquiring him. Whether they had the right offer for it is another story entirely. Why the mods decided to torture us all this offseason and unban you is the real mystery.

Nonsense. Especially on the 3rd base part.

Christ I must have missed him coming back. Glad we're all going to have our good taste of misery back in full swing on here.

God we're starting with this and only one disappointing non signing so far. Going to be a long offseason.